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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    I apologize for that comment, it was unfair and unreasonable.

    However there is a noticeable difference between my generation (and I've noticed, pretty much my generation alone) and everyone else when it comes to Israel.

    And to be honest there is a huge amount of "Jews are sad" literature foisted on all school students. I think for older people the Israelis successfully translated this into support for Israel (which is perhaps Israel's most disgusting crime). I think their ability to do that is faltering. Hence my generation.
    Well, I do kind of feel like we should have carved a big section out of Germany for them rather than plunking them down in the ME. I will grant you that doing that was kind of an emotional decision at the time and should have been thought through a little better.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Thats interesting. A while back I asked a palestinian poster on this website about how Hamas' attacks on Isreali civillians could be justified. His reply was remarkably similar.
    You mean Israeli citizens demonstrate in the streets with suicide belts on and holding rockets pointed at Gaza and the West Bank? What foolishness.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You mean Israeli citizens demonstrate in the streets with suicide belts on and holding rockets pointed at Gaza and the West Bank? What foolishness.
    Well there are some militant jewish sects but they do stuff like squat in homes that the Israeli government has declared illegal settlements. LOL

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    Similarly, the people of Gaza seem to demand that their government do whatever is neccesary to end the crippling blockade!

    The tragedy is that neither side is likely to acheive their goals through this violence.
    Unlike Israel, they have no Article 51 rights to stop it. Israel HAS Article 51 rights to defend themselves. Also, PEACE is the best way to end the "blockade" not rockets.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    I just cannot understand why conservatives resent various American social welfare programs but are so happy to give so much money to that nasty little country that benefits us so little. And then they justify it with "well their enemies are worse." That's our standard? All a country needs to be "good" is worse enemies? The logic has become that the Arabs are our inevitable enemies and that we have to support Israel to fight them. The Arabs are our enemies because of Israel! I'm not saying they would have loved us without Israel's existence, but the region would have just been so much better for us. And for the Arabs too- all Arabs despotism uses the false threat of Israel to justify their regimes.

    Do you realize that without our support of Israel it's possible that 9/11 may have never happened? Is it really worth that much?

    If we told the world tomorrow that we would not support Israel any further until they denuclearized the entire world would view America so completely different that it'd be astounding.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    We elected Blagojevich.
    Is Blago launching rockets off at Indiana?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by cheat3 View Post
    Blago has never taken somone homeland away and subjugated the loacals through decades to tyrany, torture and international war crimes either...
    Jews aren't locals? They have lived there for a VERY long time.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    I just cannot understand why conservatives resent various American social welfare programs but are so happy to give so much money to that nasty little country that benefits us so little. And then they justify it with "well their enemies are worse." That's our standard? All a country needs to be "good" is worse enemies? The logic has become that the Arabs are our inevitable enemies and that we have to support Israel to fight them. The Arabs are our enemies because of Israel! I'm not saying they would have loved us without Israel's existence, but the region would have just been so much better for us. And for the Arabs too- all Arabs despotism uses the false threat of Israel to justify their regimes.

    Do you realize that without our support of Israel it's possible that 9/11 may have never happened? Is it really worth that much?

    If we told the world tomorrow that we would not support Israel any further until they denuclearized the entire world would view America so completely different that it'd be astounding.
    I think it's a little more complex than that. As long as the Arab world is gnashing its teeth and spitting over Israel, they don't have the focus to confront the western world head on. Israel is almost a foreign policy buffer between us and them that keeps the fight there for the most part.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    I think it works in completely the opposite direction, and if you listen to any of Osama's tapes, I think my view is confirmed. We're sucked into their hatred of Israel, not protected by it.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    When there are more civilians than militants in those areas?

    Yeah pretty much, if it saves lives.
    So, according to your logic, the terrorists can lob rockets into Israeli civilian areas, then hide amongst civilians, and there is nothing Israel can do about it?

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