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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    By the way, you do realize that if the IDF was actually trying to kill civilians there would be tens of thousands dead for the same numbers of sorties flown and the same amount of ordinance dropped so far, right?
    And US support would no longer be viable in the face of international condemnation, Israel has to be seen to be targeting 'militants', it is fighting a media war as well as an occupation.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Nope, can you repost it? Or is it a few pages back?
    It is a couple or three pages back. I am actually eating dinner right now, else I would look for it for you.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    By the way, you do realize that if the IDF was actually trying to kill civilians there would be tens of thousands dead for the same numbers of sorties flown and the same amount of ordinance dropped so far, right?
    Israel would be doing it if it didn't cripple them, the only thing holding them back on restraint is image otherwise i highly doubt US would condemn any form of killing on Israel's part

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Israel is messin up. They dont have much land to work with compared to others so their citizens better reign their government in a bit.

    270 die in ongoing Israeli strikes on Gaza - MSNBC's Top News - MSNBC.com

    Their plan is going to bite them in the ass.

    After all of the root of Hamas is gone then watch for people popping up uniting under people soon.

    And if they don't calm soon I think it will apex soon and they will loose support quicker and quicker.

    Another day would be over the fence I think. UN should step in. Their blitzkreig tactics may have further malice intended in a grand finali.

    In a show of national unity, Israel's leading political parties suspended electioneering for the Feb. 10 ballot, which opinion polls forecast the right-wing Likud of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will win.

    Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, the head of the ruling centrist Kadima party, called for international support against "an extremist Islamist organization ... that is being supported by Iran", Israel's arch-foe.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Israel is messin up. They dont have much land to work with compared to others so their citizens better reign their government in a bit.

    270 die in ongoing Israeli strikes on Gaza - MSNBC's Top News - MSNBC.com

    Their plan is going to bite them in the ass.

    After all of the root of Hamas is gone then watch for people popping up uniting under people soon.

    And if they don't calm soon I think it will apex soon and they will loose support quicker and quicker.

    Another day would be over the fence I think. UN should step in. Their blitzkreig tactics may have further malice intended in a grand finali.
    The UN will NOT step in. China's veto power would prevent any force that would protect Israel from Hamas's rockets and the U.S. would ensure that Israel's legitimate interests are protected. If you think the UNSC is the solution, you are suffering from severe Ostrich Syndrome.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The UN will NOT step in. China's veto power would prevent any force that would protect Israel from Hamas's rockets and the U.S. would ensure that Israel's legitimate interests are protected. If you think the UNSC is the solution, you are suffering from severe Ostrich Syndrome.
    Seems better than any alternative. As long as they dont **** anything up.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The UN will NOT step in. China's veto power would prevent any force that would protect Israel from Hamas's rockets and the U.S. would ensure that Israel's legitimate interests are protected.
    Well, China veto's any Pro Israel resolutions.
    US veto's any Pro Palestinian/Anti Israel resolutions.
    Not exactly new information ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Seems better than any alternative. As long as they dont **** anything up. Especially if they are suspending elections.
    You don't get it. It simply WILL NOT HAPPEN. You obviously don't understand the dynamics of the members of the UNSC, especially the P5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Well, China veto's any Pro Israel resolutions.
    US veto's any Pro Palestinian/Anti Israel resolutions.
    Not exactly new information ...
    You get this, and I get this, but it seems that there are some on here who DON'T get this basic fact.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by cheat3 View Post
    And US support would no longer be viable in the face of international condemnation, Israel has to be seen to be targeting 'militants', it is fighting a media war as well as an occupation.
    I agree with your statement. But to Laila and those who would decry the innocents killed without recognizing the restraint shown by the IDF in not killing more, you can't have it both ways.

    The IDF waited to go in at all and if they were really trying to kill civilians they could easily have killed scores more than they did.

    cheat3, I recognize the importance of not only being in the right but appearing to be in the right.

    The Palestinians have a difficult time appearing to be in the right because on the foundation of this matter they have very little to justify their intransigence. They have a claim to the land but not a greater claim than the Israelis. But, if I'm not mistaken, their religion does not allow for them to give up the land. So they have sought to play the perpetual victim in order to keep from losing popular support around the world in the court of public opinion.

    But where there is a perpetual victim there must also be a perpetual villain and the Israeli government understands this is how many wish to see them, thanks to the Palestinian grandstanding and showcasing everything done to them no matter how they themselves provoked these acts.

    So, it appears the Israeli government does what it must to not only be in the right but sometimes to make sure they don't lose in the court of public opinion.

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