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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    dirtpoorchris,

    Has Israel not turned the other cheek for too long? Has Israel not tolerated continuous attacks on civilian targets? Yes, we have. We have been doing it for the last 8 years. The time has come to fight back.

    What you're suggesting has been done before. Israel used to respond to each rocket launch individually by launching precise artillery fire back. Needless to say, it was effective only during a very short period. Now, the terrorists don't physically launch the rockets. They place and ready them, punch in a nice and long timer, and run as far as they can. Now that is true bravery and commitment to your people.

    As for the rocket interceptors - you have to remember these are very simple rockets, which is what makes them so powerful. They're not easy to destroy using conventional methods. Some new methods are being developed now (several using laser technology), but there's no guarantee they're work on these short distances - and besides, they're not ready yet or in the foreseeable future. And that is without speaking of the time and costs of installing this complex system so that everybody is protected.

    Currently, the only protection that's being offered is a siren. If you've even been to the area, you know that there are several balloons flying above. Inside lies an automatic system which detects rocket launches and gives a warning of about 15 seconds to the residents of Sderot, which is really not much.

    So, in essence, what do you suggest Israel does to solve this problem?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, you've all ready got those labels.
    PERHAPS anti-Semetic, but I don't think she is a terrorist.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    What you are saying makes sense. A new ceasefire that is. However lifting the blockade will result in shipments of weapons that are much more destructive than kassam rockets. Israel cannot allow this. I think that the Israelis will have to be allowed to inspect any and all aid shipments destin for the Palestinian territories.
    In the short term, I'd have no problem with this, neither would most Palestinians. There will however come a time when Israel is going to have trust the Palestinians real control over their borders.

    More importantly Gaza must be allowed to export goods, alleviating poverty, reducing unemployment and giving hope for the future to the kids in Gaza is far more important to Israel's security than stopping a few home made rockets.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Head lector. Lead Speaker.. Same thing.
    Actually, it's not.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post

    I never figured him as that but damn
    What is THAT supposed to mean?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hmm, wasn't that also said for the crusades?

    [Couldn't resist it]
    Well, considering that the Muslims had been on the offensive for centuries, it was also a necessary evil.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Are you blind? I answered you that there were many other illegal settlements, and that they provoke the Palestinians, among with other reasons I've cited above in this post
    Israel showed good will by dismantling the settlements in Gaza. Hamas responded with more attacks. Israel has tried to show that it is committed to peace. Time for some positive response from the Palestinians. I favor a phased withdrawal from the West Bank, but each phase must also be met with Palestinian acknowledgement of Israel's legitimate rights, NOT by increased calls for its destruction.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Tal View Post
    dirtpoorchris,

    Has Israel not turned the other cheek for too long? Has Israel not tolerated continuous attacks on civilian targets? Yes, we have. We have been doing it for the last 8 years. The time has come to fight back.

    What you're suggesting has been done before. Israel used to respond to each rocket launch individually by launching precise artillery fire back. Needless to say, it was effective only during a very short period. Now, the terrorists don't physically launch the rockets. They place and ready them, punch in a nice and long timer, and run as far as they can. Now that is true bravery and commitment to your people.

    As for the rocket interceptors - you have to remember these are very simple rockets, which is what makes them so powerful. They're not easy to destroy using conventional methods. Some new methods are being developed now (several using laser technology), but there's no guarantee they're work on these short distances - and besides, they're not ready yet or in the foreseeable future. And that is without speaking of the time and costs of installing this complex system so that everybody is protected.

    Currently, the only protection that's being offered is a siren. If you've even been to the area, you know that there are several balloons flying above. Inside lies an automatic system which detects rocket launches and gives a warning of about 15 seconds to the residents of Sderot, which is really not much.

    So, in essence, what do you suggest Israel does to solve this problem?
    Pick a date. Instead of dropping bombs drop leaflets that refer to the date. Say "On this date we want to try something new. For every one of you that comes to shake our hand. We will meet you to shake yours." Then just sit and wait and meet them on a line.

    Repeat over and over no matter what any tv says you should do.


    When a Israeli boat lights up a picnic going on at a beach maybe hold the soldier accountable seeing as it is a government funded entity. Show that you refine yourself also.

    Im sure videos all around youtube of Israeli soldiers taking turns slapping the **** outa civilians once they are detained and soldiers letting a dog attack a chubby, elderly lady couldn't help either.

    I don't know. I am pretty steamed out argueing for a few hours and maybe could think of better responses later.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Ok tell me what I am lacking and not understanding in then and we can hash this out.

    I could see if maybe all of the arabs decided to overrun Israel, when Israel had done no wrong, then maybe God would call upon a prophet to take a staff up in his name so that God's soldier would not die in defense. And in turning showing people absolute truth and creating a closeness to God for those who never had one.
    I am not saying Israel has done no wrong. I have never said that. However, in this case, Israel is responding to its legitimate security needs. Hamas has been raining rockets over Southern Israel with impunity since they violated the cease fire. Israel has warned them several times to stop. Do you expect them to simply sit there and let Hamas keep taking pot shots at them?

    Question: Do you think the US invasion of Afghanistan was wrong? Legally? Morally?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    thank you, I'll be careful next time
    No worries - you should see the goof ups I make in Chinese language forums from time to time. No one reasonable would hold that against you.
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