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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    So set up an automatic return fire system that only kills whoever fires a gun or rocket everywhere... I think after the first time one would get tired of firing on Israeli locations just to get a bullet or missle sent in their exact location.
    Give me a &^%&A# break. Does the technology exist for that? Even if it did, it would to nothing to address the infrastructure that supports those attacks.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Give me a &^%&A# break. Does the technology exist for that? Even if it did, it would to nothing to address the infrastructure that supports those attacks.
    We already have technology that can pinpoint an exact gunshot... We have sentry gun technology that is more accurate than humans... All you need to do is combine them. Add in a rocket interceptor that already has a 100% success rate and you shield yourself from all attacks AND take out the aggressor. After a week I garentee you not a single person would chose to attempt to kill the same way.

    We share our militairy secrets with Israel alot and so do they to us.
    It is not far fetched what so ever.

    I would enjoy further talks on what you would think The son of God born in a human body would condone. Unless you dont want to.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Uhhh.. ya it does.
    Umm, NO it doesn't! This is not science fiction.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Indeed, Hamas seems to have started using violence, and I condemn them as much as you do. However, the behavior of Israel (blocus + illegal settlements + annexion of Palestinian land with the security fence + numerous Palestinian civilians killed as "collateral damage" + destruction of houses etc...) is partly responsible for the war too, as it provokes the Hamas.

    Furthermore, the reaction of Israel won't bring any solution: Hamas calls for a new intifada. Violence won't solve anything, Barak should have learnt that, after 60 years of conflict.
    What do you suggest the Israeli leaders do. Attempts at peace talks have never worked. Ceasefires always are violated or violence resumes after they expire. The only solution that would be acceptable to Hamas is if Israelis packed up and left Israel, the land that was promissed them by god.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    What do you suggest the Israeli leaders do. Attempts at peace talks have never worked. Ceasefires always are violated or violence resumes after they expire. The only solution that would be acceptable to Hamas is if Israelis packed up and left Israel, the land that was promissed them by god.
    Uhhh.. I dont think they are supposed to have a place to live until the messiah comes. So if you wanna use religion they should get out.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Ahh we get into the 'Israel is democratic and therefore all perfect and peace loving where on the other hand we have a non democratic entity which is agressive'

    UK and US is democratic but have some blood filled history that is still going on.
    Democracy means diddly squat to me when making a moral decision.

    At least one good thing is coming from this, Arabs are united in condemnation. We all know how rare that
    And what prithee, do you use as criteria when making moral judgments?

    Apparently, not punctuation or sentence structure.

    But that aside, you sound like one of the poor unfortunates that believe that war and bloodshed are the greatest of evils.

    This is a deluded view only possible for the sheltered souls who have never encountered true, intractable, and unrestrained malice. People who have, come to see that a greater evil than war is failure to recognize, condemn and oppose such maleficence.

    Declaring that all sides are equally guilty because none are perfect is a sort of moralistic fornication.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Attempting to blame either side for starting anything is a pointless endeavor that quickly results in another unnecessary recitation of the history of the conflict.

    In regards to the current situation, Israel has enforced a strict military blockade on Gaza for over a year, this blockade, according to many Palestinian officials is bringing Gaza dangerously close to a humanitarian crisis. Hamas recently refused to renew a cease fire agreement it has had with Israel for the past 6 months due to Israeli refusal to loosen this blockade. The termination of the cease fire by Hamas spurred this massive new operation by Israel.

    Maybe some of those so desperate to claim Israeli innocence in all this should note that the last time any Arab states declared a military blockade of Israel, Israel used it as a pre-text to rout 3 Arab armies and annex an area of land 3 times her own size!

    Of course Im sure Israel could claim her blockade was justified based on prior Palestinian actions, the Palestinians would however claim those actions were justified based on past Israeli actions and so on and so forth. Very quickly wed be discussing 1967 or 1948.

    The most important thing right now is for both sides to agree a new cease fire so that a humanitarian crisis in Gaza can be avoided and the people of Southern Israel can live in security.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    Attempting to blame either side for starting anything is a pointless endeavor that quickly results in another unnecessary recitation of the history of the conflict.

    In regards to the current situation, Israel has enforced a strict military blockade on Gaza for over a year, this blockade, according to many Palestinian officials is bringing Gaza dangerously close to a humanitarian crisis. Hamas recently refused to renew a cease fire agreement it has had with Israel for the past 6 months due to Israeli refusal to loosen this blockade. The termination of the cease fire by Hamas spurred this massive new operation by Israel.

    Maybe some of those so desperate to claim Israeli innocence in all this should note that the last time any Arab states declared a military blockade of Israel, Israel used it as a pre-text to rout 3 Arab armies and annex an area of land 3 times her own size!

    Of course Im sure Israel could claim her blockade was justified based on prior Palestinian actions, the Palestinians would however claim those actions were justified based on past Israeli actions and so on and so forth. Very quickly wed be discussing 1967 or 1948.

    The most important thing right now is for both sides to agree a new cease fire so that a humanitarian crisis in Gaza can be avoided and the people of Southern Israel can live in security.
    What you are saying makes sense. A new ceasefire that is. However lifting the blockade will result in shipments of weapons that are much more destructive than kassam rockets. Israel cannot allow this. I think that the Israelis will have to be allowed to inspect any and all aid shipments destin for the Palestinian territories.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I ask you to never defend me. Physically at least. For in chains or even the face of death ill say what I want. Freedom is a choice.
    You have a rather odd view of reality.

    But why stop with me? If you do not wish to be physically defended by anyone, you'd have to leave civilized nations entirely, even the marginally so.

    Without that, you are being defended with force and at least the possibility of murderous violence by someone.

    We really should think of a way for you free yourself of your tainted heritage too, that is everything which is forced upon you that was won by force. Of course that would include your education health, and life. But there must be some way to give up these soiled and corrupt things short of death.

    Then you could "choose freedom!" Of course, no one would have taught you what that was, you'd be a slave at best and would be very unlikely to have any meaningful way whatsoever to express that abstract freedom, including in your thoughts, as you would be too primitive to engage in much free cognizance.

    No, it is probably the safer course for you to remain as you are, and cast aspersions on the Worthies who have and do take up the burden of providing a context for you to engage in hollow, self aggrandizing pontification on the nature of freedoms that you do not accept the cost of.
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