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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    "All arabs hate Jews"
    Put false statements into the mouths of others much?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Unlike some Palestinian groups, the Israelis are not attempting genocide.
    Oh really? Some would beg to differ with you:

    Israel Doesn't Need 'Gas Chambers' To Commit Genocide
    Israel gets a free pass to commit genocide - Topix

    They have killed 14,000 Palestinians since 1950. While it may be a slower process then the Holocaust, it surely fits the definition of systematic destruction of a people:

    Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Don't tell me I'm gonna have to wait until a mosquito bites me before I can slap it.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Catholic Church teaches that there is NO ABSOLUTE right to private property and that responsible government authority has the right to regulate its use.
    Again you are playing with words, not absolutely does not mean it only exists at the beneficence of the state and regulated does not mean completely taken away at whim.

    The Catholic church's social teachings are based in this respect on the Rerum Novarum of LeoXIII and the Quadragesimo Anno of Pius XI.

    From these documents:

    Let it be regarded, therefore, as established that in seeking help for the masses this principle before all is to be considered as basic, namely, that private ownership must be preserved inviolate

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    Those, therefore, are doing a work that is truly salutary and worthy of all praise who, while preserving harmony among themselves and the integrity of the traditional teaching of the Church, seek to define the inner nature of these duties and their limits whereby either the right of property itself or its use, that is, the exercise of ownership, is circumscribed by the necessities of social living. On the other hand, those who seek to restrict the individual character of ownership to such a degree that in fact they destroy it are mistaken and in error


    In many cases it was purchased by Jewish people. However, you must keep in mind that we are talking about State sovereignty in this thread, NOT private land ownership.
    We are talking about both and most of it wasn't purchased, at least in an honest way.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Oh really? Some would beg to differ with you:

    Israel Doesn't Need 'Gas Chambers' To Commit Genocide
    Israel gets a free pass to commit genocide - Topix

    They have killed 14,000 Palestinians since 1950. While it may be a slower process then the Holocaust, it surely fits the definition of systematic destruction of a people:

    Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
    But Israel's actions are neither deliberate nor systematic. They are in response to the threats and actions of those around them to destroy them.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Put false statements into the mouths of others much?
    When you say "Arabs hate Jews" you are inevitably implying that all of them do.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How does one negotiate with a terrorist group who starts from the stance that your nation does not even exist, has no right to exist and should be destroyed?

    Arab leagues on three different occasions attempted to destroy Israel by attacking it with surprise and no declaration. What part of this does not exhibit Arab hate?

    Arab leaders have publicly indicated their hate of Jews. Ahmandinijad does it with almost every speech. You wish to claim there is no Muslim hate?
    Perhaps and this is me speculating, some people think that Israel doesn't deserve to be there because its almost punishment for what Europeans did to the Jews so Arab land was given away by the British. Europeans was the ones that almost wiped them out, it should have been in Europe their new land was created. By giving the Jews a home, they took one away from Palestinians in effect and you think people should welcome a new state of post european imperialism in the Middle East and Muslim world? Israel will almost never be recognised by Muslim countries and honestley, i don't see why Israel continues to cry about being recognized by surrounding countries. Get over it for Gods sake. Like it makes a difference.
    Israel should have know what it was in for when it created a jewish state bam smack in the middle of Muslim Arab countries. It was foolishness to say mildly.

    Some wars are not started based on hate but rather wanting something. The Arab league wanted to expel those who came to the land for the Palestinians.

    Arab leaders have no choice but bow to the will of their people especially regarding Israel, honestley. Israel has ensured it has weakened any moderate voice that wanted peace in the middle east when it kills and continues to kill and injure Palestinians. You think Arab leaders would shake hands of those who order it? How do you think it would look to the Muslim world? Israel has ensured Egypt is hated, Jordan and Saudi Arabia are also in the firing line and Turkey has refused to mediate between Syria and Israel. Lmao, for a country that wants peace with Muslim countries. It has done a bang up job in turning them against Israel. Not even US has progressed so far
    Qatar's Emir Sheikh Hamad responded directly to the discontent over this gaza conflict by even implying the existence of Israeli ambassadors would be up for discussion.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    It is kind of interesting Israel will not allow western reporters into Gaza.

    It is even more interesting that they have come out and admitted publically that the restriction is because they want to control the flow of information coming in and out of Gaza.

    My impression is that when authorities start restricting the press from a war zone, those very same authorities are doing things that are criminal in nature and in violation of IHL. If Israel was doing things on the up and up, then they wouldn't be trying to prevent the truth from being told.

    I also hear that the death toll for children in Gaza is up to 111.

    I also hear that Israel will not agree to a truce until they have obtained some military objectives.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Freedom of press my ass.

    It doesn't matter how much Israel try's to censor images and death tolls, we all know what will be the end result.
    If they think blocking journalist from doing their job will mean their bull**** operation will be accepted internationally; they are on drugs.

    Oh and i also heard homes are being fired on and civilian casulties, especially children are mounting daily because of this operation
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Perhaps and this is me speculating, some people think that Israel doesn't deserve to be there because its almost punishment for what Europeans did to the Jews so Arab land was given away by the British. Europeans was the ones that almost wiped them out, it should have been in Europe their new land was created. By giving the Jews a home, they took one away from Palestinians in effect and you think people should welcome a new state of post european imperialism in the Middle East and Muslim world? Israel will almost never be recognised by Muslim countries and honestley, i don't see why Israel continues to cry about being recognized by surrounding countries. Get over it for Gods sake. Like it makes a difference.
    Israel should have know what it was in for when it created a jewish state bam smack in the middle of Muslim Arab countries. It was foolishness to say mildly.

    Some wars are not started based on hate but rather wanting something. The Arab league wanted to expel those who came to the land for the Palestinians.

    Arab leaders have no choice but bow to the will of their people especially regarding Israel, honestley. Israel has ensured it has weakened any moderate voice that wanted peace in the middle east when it kills and continues to kill and injure Palestinians. You think Arab leaders would shake hands of those who order it? How do you think it would look to the Muslim world? Israel has ensured Egypt is hated, Jordan and Saudi Arabia are also in the firing line and Turkey has refused to mediate between Syria and Israel. Lmao, for a country that wants peace with Muslim countries. It has done a bang up job in turning them against Israel. Not even US has progressed so far
    Qatar's Emir Sheikh Hamad responded directly to the discontent over this gaza conflict by even implying the existence of Israeli ambassadors would be up for discussion.
    So you're essentially claiming Arabs were just fine with Jews up until 1948 and the establishment of Israel?

    You know ... to the victor go the spoils! Talk about a group of people needing to "get over it." How 'bout the "Palestinians?"

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