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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Now civil laws, which, when just, derive their power from the natural law itself, confirm and, even by the use of force, protect this right of which we speak. -- And this same right has been sanctioned by the authority of the divine law, which forbids us most strictly even to desire what belongs to another. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his house, nor his field, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is his."[/I]
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    Do you actually know what the current teachings of the church are regarding private property?


    Actual they were a function of custom. You are a Catholic was the point though.
    But we are not talking about a Catholic area of the world. Do you think I am one who forces my religious values on other parts of the world?

    That is not important, the point is they owned the property individually and collectively.
    However, all land ownership is subject to the laws of a particular government/society. Would you care to explain how the Jews gained ownership of the land?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    How is an image of Israel's control over the land considered propaganda? Or do you deny that Israel has grown since 1946?
    Why has Israel's land grown since "1946"? Trick question, because Israel DIDN'T EXIST in 1946.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Except that is has not been proven that they have stored munitions in mosques. Thus, the dilemma.
    Did you even WATCH the video that was posted? How ELSE do you explain the secondary explosions?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Sounds like the issue here is actually your hatred of Arabs.
    I love how you put words in the mouths of others. It is PATENTLY OBVIOUS that many Arabs DO hate the Jews. They, along with the Persian regime in Iran, want to drive Israel INTO THE SEA. Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Israel on the other hand wants a truce with international monitors on the ground. Hamas refuses. Please tell me, who hates whom?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    I love how you put words in the mouths of others. It is PATENTLY OBVIOUS that many Arabs DO hate the Jews. They, along with the Persian regime in Iran, want to drive Israel INTO THE SEA. Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Israel on the other hand wants a truce with international monitors on the ground. Hamas refuses. Please tell me, who hates whom?
    None of this proves at all that "Arabs hate jews". You're defending hate.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Do you actually know what the current teachings of the church are regarding private property?
    That is the current teaching along with some later additions from PiusXI and some much smaller works from later popes.




    But we are not talking about a Catholic area of the world. Do you think I am one who forces my religious values on other parts of the world?
    I'm talking about you not them. You keep attacking property.


    However, all land ownership is subject to the laws of a particular government/society. Would you care to explain how the Jews gained ownership of the land?
    A lot of it by force, sometimes with the help of the British and even some arabs and sometimes they bought it. The fact that rules change does not wipe out all rights to the property.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    "The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports of Israel's heavy artillery bombardment of densely populated Gaza on Saturday that "The American School north of Gaza was directly hit and almost completely destroyed, with one school guard killed. In addition, at least three to five schools were damaged by Israeli shelling of nearby targets." I presume that this is the school working to promote US good relations with Palestinians that now no longer exists.. Of course, the rest of the humanitarian situation is pretty bad, too--"Distribution of food assistance to the most vulnerable is erratic due to the security situation.""

    Another Hamas weapons cache?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    "The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports of Israel's heavy artillery bombardment of densely populated Gaza on Saturday that "The American School north of Gaza was directly hit and almost completely destroyed, with one school guard killed. In addition, at least three to five schools were damaged by Israeli shelling of nearby targets." I presume that this is the school working to promote US good relations with Palestinians that now no longer exists.. Of course, the rest of the humanitarian situation is pretty bad, too--"Distribution of food assistance to the most vulnerable is erratic due to the security situation.""

    Another Hamas weapons cache?
    Why wouldn't Hamas hide weapons in schools? Why wouldn't Hamas leaders or men hide in schools?

    Hamas' past deviousness in taking advantage of sanctuaries like Mosques and hospitals and schools and civilian homes is now working against the people of Gaza.


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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hamas will use anything for propaganda, i want my PM to show some form of backbone and morality. Condemn both sides

    US is clearly not going to condemn, i want EU and UK PM to do it.
    You are falsely equating backbone and morality with condemning Israel's defensive actions. It sounds like the only criticism you have of Brown not condemning the response is your disagreement with it.

    Palestine is not a country in any sense of the word. The central government is unstable and run by militant extremists that are intent on wiping out Israel while its populace is impoverished and uneducated due to a lack of basic infrastructural integrity.

    A stable, Arabic-lead coalition (backed by select Western interests) must assume sovereignty over Palestine and summarily restore order by providing security and basic infrastructural necessities. People are less inclined towards aggression when they do not lack the basic necessities of life.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    [quote=Khayembii Communique;1057870637]
    Why would those in power in Hamas personally attack Israel and Israeli forces? [/qupte]

    Because they're terrorists?

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