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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    says it all doesn't it?

    “Israel would be satisfied with a compromise, but the Arab regimes want to finish Hamas completely,” Mr. Amine said.

    They cannot openly say so, he added, because Hamas is a Sunni movement, unlike Hezbollah, which Saudi Arabia and Egypt — both of them Sunni-led countries — publicly criticized at the start of the summer 2006 war with Israel.
    Exactly.
    All that has been achieved is ensuring that Hamas stays.
    Now all Hamas needs to say it has defeated Israel is survival. If Hamas survives this attack they can claim they withstood Israel

    Hamas support amongst the Islamic world and amongst the Palestinians itself was low yet people have rallied behind Hamas in this attack.
    Why? Because despite the fact they hate Hamas. They would rather side with fellow Arabs over Israel as the Governments would and is getting it in the neck for not doing enough to stop Israel :/

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Deaths as Israel hits Gaza mosque

    At least 11 Palestinians, including one child, have been killed after Israeli forces struck a mosque during prayers in the town of Beit Lahiya, north of Jabaliya in the Gaza Strip.

    More than 200 people were inside the the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque praying when it was struck.


    Short article so I couldn't quote the whole thing because of DP rules, but best quote:

    "The Israeli military has destroyed several mosques during its week-long offensive in Gaza, saying Hamas uses the houses of worship to store weapons."

    The moment you start justifying the killing of civilians as legitimate military targets is the moment you stop distinguishing between civilians and enemies. This is total war.

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    Perhaps Hamas shouldn't store mutitions in mosques.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    If you are going to make an attempt at debating, please try to comprehend what is being discussed. The post you quoted was in response to the article talking about Israel attacking a mercy ship, not a weapon storage facility.
    That ship was trying to run a blockade. They should have stopped for inspection!
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Personal attacks are the most prevalent, but attacking the source rather than the evidence is considered Ad Hom as well.
    How about when that source spouts propoganda without providing credible "evidence?"
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I have no need to be on the defensive. I made an argument and supplied evidence for it. You have failed to refute said argument with any evidence. Thanks for playing.
    You didn't supply evidence, you supplied propoganda.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Israel is the one killing civilians at this moment in time. Did you read the title of this thread? I also grow weary of the vast majority of Americans thinking Israel is such a great and wonderful ally that can do no wrong.
    Actually, Hamas has also been killing civilians. That is why this military action was needed in the first place.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    At the same time, international cease-fire efforts were also gaining momentum. French President Nicolas Sarkozy is visiting the region next week to try to end the violence, and President George W. Bush and U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon both spoke in favor of an internationally monitored truce.

    But Hamas, in its first reaction to the proposal on Saturday, reacted coolly to the idea of international monitors.
    Gee, wonder why.

    Hamas doesn't want peace. They merely want a cease fire so they can re-arm.

    article here
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You cannot say this while supporting the bombing of civilians. You are a hypocrite.



    How the hell was that an ad hominem?
    I don't see him supporting the bombing of civilians. I see you supporting an organization that puts military assets in civilian locations however.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The start of the conflict goes back to the foundation of Israel, not the formation of Hamas...



    Because if you do then you're a jew hating nazi, or something.

    "BLASPHEMER it is only you dirty Joos that do wrong in the ME"
    It goes back to the foundation of Israel because the Arabs INVADED it the day it was proclaimed with UNITED NATIONS backing.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    If you target a building full of civilians for a bombing, and you bomb it knowing that, then you intentionally bombed civilians. It does not matter whether it was direct or indirect "collateral damage". It was still the intentional mass murder of innocent civilians. Of course, you could try telling the families of these people that were killed that "they were just after Hamas" but I don't think they'd really care.
    Then why does the IDF drop leaflets in advance warning that an attack is coming?
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