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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    you do not get to start a war and than cry for a ceasefire when you get your ass kicked

    Hamas started it, and Israel should slaughter as many as they can target
    they should destroy every safe house, every HQ, every bomb making facility, every arms storage house, every tunnel, and to hell with how many 'innocent palestinians' are caught in teh crossfire
    If the 'innocents do not want to be killed in the crossfire, maybe they should bring pressure to bear on Hamas and make them stop attacking Israeli civilians
    every innocen life lost is tragic
    but put the blame where it lies
    Hamas started this
    now they are getting the **** kicked out of them and now they want Israel to surrender and talk about a ceasefire

    where in teh **** did you learn such BS backwards ass thinking
    they had a ceasefire
    Hamas Broke the ceasefire
    they are presently losing
    they do not get to dictate the terms of a ceasefire nor terms to broker a ceasefire
    that is not how war works
    that is not how the world works
    Only if you do not take into consideration attrition done to Gaza.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You mean like when Hamas said it may accept a brokered ceasefire? Like that sort of negotiating that is beyond Hamas you mean?
    You haven't answered the question; typical. How is it that talking to these people results in anything other than more attacks? After 60 years where has TALK, bribes and appeasement gotten anyone?

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    First, your political affiliation states you are Liberal. Why is it that someone who is a self proclaimed Liberal finds it insulting to be called a Liberal?

    Secondly, Liberals are part of a political philosophy who still believe one can appease despots dictators and terrorists; yet cannot point to ONE single instance where TALK has ever worked; so back to the question you continue to AVOID, what is YOUR plan that will achieve the elusive success to make peace between these terrorist factions and Israel? Do you have some new secret formula that will work better than the FAILED policies over the last 60 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This method has been used numerous times by Israel and the results of them are loud and clear. WHAT WOULD MAKE THIS RAID ANY DIFFERENT?

    Violence creates more violence, not stability, especially in one of the most volatile regions of this world in the most complex conflict!
    Bribes, appeasement and TALK has been used for 60 years; what peace has it achieved? We have bribed Palestinians with BILLIONS of dollars to BUY peace; when has it ever worked?

    You continue with the NAIVE and FAILED notion that appeasement and TALK will somehow provide a miraculous cure for the ignorance, hate and murder that is the primary makeup of Hezbollah and Hammas; how profound.

    I look forward to seeing your cure-all for the efforts made over 60 years to bribe, TALK and APPEASE these murderers and has resulted in NOTHING more than more of the same. It reminds me of that old saying; if you keep doing what you always have done with the SAME result, but are expecting a different one, you just might be naive.

    Let me ask you a much simpler question; do you honestly believe that Hammas or Hezbollah desire peace with Israel?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Only if you do not take into consideration attrition done to Gaza.
    In order to understand the attrition done to Gaza, one must first recognize that Hammas is the one that brought this attrition about.

    One can only support terrorism by wallowing in profound denial about their history.

    Does ANYONE who sympathizes with the Palestinian plight honestly believe that Hammas or Hezbollah REALLY want peace?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I think you've had too much to drink!

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That depends greatly on the contents of the warhead portion of the bomb.

    If the warhed is weak, it will not do a great deal of blast damage; however, the weight of the bomb will make it useful against a single structure. The structure could be utterly pulversized with minimal damage to surrounding stuctures. This would have the effect of limiting incidental casualties (with the possible exception of those inside the traget structure).
    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And the symbolism was NOT lost on the terrorists. They are on the offensive because they don't want Israel to stop with Gaza or the West Bank. They won't stop until Israel is driven into the Mediterranean Sea.
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    In order to understand the attrition done to Gaza, one must first recognize that Hammas is the one that brought this attrition about.

    One can only support terrorism by wallowing in profound denial about their history.

    Does ANYONE who sympathizes with the Palestinian plight honestly believe that Hammas or Hezbollah REALLY want peace?
    Collateral damages are inevitable in a war. But there are still many civilians killed in Gaza.

    Do you think it's a good tactic to kill some of them (by accident) so that they reject the Hamas? Do you think it's what Israel does, and do you support it?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Does ANYONE who sympathizes with the Palestinian plight honestly believe that Hammas or Hezbollah REALLY want peace?
    Nope. Then again, neither do the Zionist leaders of Israel. So what we have are a bunch of innocent people being thrown into a conflict because two headstrong factions refuse to budge. This is why I advocate pulling support from Israel and condemning both countries actions.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Nope. Then again, neither do the Zionist leaders of Israel. So what we have are a bunch of innocent people being thrown into a conflict because two headstrong factions refuse to budge. This is why I advocate pulling support from Israel and condemning both countries actions.
    You are wrong. Israel gave back land in an effort to make peace. What has Hamas done? What have the Palestinians done? NOTHING ... NOT ONE DAMN THING!!!!

    Your assumptions about Israel are WRONG.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    You are wrong. Israel gave back land in an effort to make peace. What has Hamas done? What have the Palestinians done? NOTHING ... NOT ONE DAMN THING!!!!

    Your assumptions about Israel are WRONG.
    haven't they actually called for numerous ceasefires?

    now of course they only using it to resupply, but still....

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Collateral damages are inevitable in a war. But there are still many civilians killed in Gaza.

    Do you think it's a good tactic to kill some of them (by accident) so that they reject the Hamas? Do you think it's what Israel does, and do you support it?
    No. Then again ... Israel DOES NOT target civilians. Targeting civilians is usually something that Hamas does.

    Again, Israel is NOT targeting civilians. Hamas is hiding among civilians because they (a) Don't give a damn what happens to citizens of Palestine; (b) Think hiding in civilian areas will prevent retaliation from Israel; and (c) like using the civilian casualty angle to take the heat off themselves and avoid responsibility for the deaths caused by their own actions.

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