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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, are you trying to argue that Jews were establishing illegal colonies in the Middle East?
    I'm not talking about Israel itself, but about the colonies that are on Palestinian territory and which are, according to me and most of the world except certain Israelis and maybe certain conservative Americans, illegal.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    I'm not talking about Israel itself, but about the colonies that are on Palestinian territory and which are, according to me and most of the world except certain Israelis and maybe certain conservative Americans, illegal.
    Sorry, I thought the reference was to pre-1947.

    I agree that those settlements are technically illegal. Israel should withdraw from them as part of a comprehensive peace deal with the Palestinians and guaranteed by the international community. I don't think it is a good idea for Israel to withdraw unilaterally at this point, given what happened after Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Sorry, I thought the reference was to pre-1947.
    No, I just think that Israel should not control Gaza and West Bank

    I agree that those settlements are technically illegal. Israel should withdraw from them as part of a comprehensive peace deal with the Palestinians and guaranteed by the international community. I don't think it is a good idea for Israel to withdraw unilaterally at this point, given what happened after Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza.
    It's a good argument but I recently discovered that in fact, the colonies of Gaza were really tiny. It's great that they withrewn from there, but it's not very significant compared to the size of the other colonies:

    Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As you can see, there were 7,000 settlers in Gaza (whose total population is over 1,5 million), while there are over 440,000 settlers in total. Furthermore, even if the Gaza colonies have disappeared, the total ammount of settlers does not stop increasing, and 2 years after the 7,000 Gaza settlers left, there were 40,000 more settlers in total!

    So, it was a good first step but it was quite symbolic

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    No, I just think that Israel should not control Gaza and West Bank



    It's a good argument but I recently discovered that in fact, the colonies of Gaza were really tiny. It's great that they withrewn from there, but it's not very significant compared to the size of the other colonies:

    Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As you can see, there were 7,000 settlers in Gaza (whose total population is over 1,5 million), while there are over 440,000 settlers in total. Furthermore, even if the Gaza colonies have disappeared, the total ammount of settlers does not stop increasing, and 2 years after the 7,000 Gaza settlers left, there were 40,000 more settlers in total!

    So, it was a good first step but it was quite symbolic
    And the symbolism was NOT lost on the terrorists. They are on the offensive because they don't want Israel to stop with Gaza or the West Bank. They won't stop until Israel is driven into the Mediterranean Sea.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And the symbolism was NOT lost on the terrorists. They are on the offensive because they don't want Israel to stop with Gaza or the West Bank. They won't stop until Israel is driven into the Mediterranean Sea.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And the symbolism was NOT lost on the terrorists. They are on the offensive because they don't want Israel to stop with Gaza or the West Bank. They won't stop until Israel is driven into the Mediterranean Sea.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    One thing I want to know..... How do you a 1-ton bomb and only kill 16 people? Is someone fudging statistics? Nice to see that Israel let out those with paperwork to other countries. Wonder what is to become of those without a paper trail.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    One thing I want to know..... How do you a 1-ton bomb and only kill 16 people? Is someone fudging statistics? Nice to see that Israel let out those with paperwork to other countries. Wonder what is to become of those without a paper trail.
    That depends greatly on the contents of the warhead portion of the bomb.

    If the warhed is weak, it will not do a great deal of blast damage; however, the weight of the bomb will make it useful against a single structure. The structure could be utterly pulversized with minimal damage to surrounding stuctures. This would have the effect of limiting incidental casualties (with the possible exception of those inside the traget structure).

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