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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Anyway, remember, Laila, when I said that defending Hamas would slowly make you lose your appearance of reasonableness and/or rationality?

    I can see it happening slowly.
    I don't defend Hamas.
    I just do not defend Israel in this raid

    It will be useless.
    It will achieve nothing.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't defend Hamas.
    I just do not defend Israel in this raid

    It will be useless.
    It will achieve nothing.
    If the Palestinians are against Hamas, and are merely unable to stand up to them- if they're being oppressed and held captive by Hamas- then it will acheive something.
    Destroying Hamas will free them, even if at a terrible cost (ie, some civilian lives).

    If, on the other hand, most of the Palastinians are in agreement with Hamas, and support Hamas, then I agree that destroying Hamas is useless and will acheive nothing, except to make the Palestinians hate Israel even more, and to make them an even greater threat to Israel.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hamas are not those stuck in the middle.

    The civilians are.
    Yes, and 75% of the casualties are Hamas members.

    You can feel sad for the civilians, as I am and as evryone should be, but don't say that 400 innocent Palestinians were killed!

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    If the Palestinians are against Hamas, and are merely unable to stand up to them- if they're being oppressed and held captive by Hamas- then it will acheive something.
    Destroying Hamas will free them, even if at a terrible cost (ie, some civilian lives).

    If, on the other hand, most of the Palastinians are in agreement with Hamas, and support Hamas, then I agree that destroying Hamas is useless and will acheive nothing, except to make the Palestinians hate Israel even more, and to make them an even greater threat to Israel.
    Even those Palestinians who disliked Hamas inside Gaza will stand with them against Israel who they would see as killing them.
    Israel's attacks if unsuccessful is destroying Hamas will only have ensured Hamas's strength and influence grows.
    Lets not forget what occured in 06, Hezbollah as a result has grown even more powerful within Lebanon and the Arab world after Israel pulled out under international pressure, the same thing will occur this time round.
    Israel's attacks has done the moderate Arab Governments who were speaking out against Hamas no favours whatsoever. They are in a dangerous position where the public is against them meaning even those strongest allied with US will not speak out against Hamas as they would be seen as accomplices with Israel in the deaths.
    Egypt is already facing the wrath of Arab anger for being too cuddly with Israel. No other Muslim Government will be stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.

    Nothing will come from this except deeper divisions within this conflict and Arab world

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    You can feel sad for the civilians, as I am and as evryone should be, but don't say that 400 innocent Palestinians were killed!
    I stated all 400 Palestinians are innocent?
    I would love to see you quote that

    I recall stating a fact: 400 dead Palestinians, 1 commander.

    True no?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    That is GOOD news....a dead terrorist is a "good" terrorist.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Even those Palestinians who disliked Hamas inside Gaza will stand with them against Israel who they would see as killing them.
    Israel's attacks if unsuccessful is destroying Hamas will only have ensured Hamas's strength and influence grows.
    Lets not forget what occured in 06, Hezbollah as a result has grown even more powerful within Lebanon and the Arab world after Israel pulled out under international pressure, the same thing will occur this time round.
    Israel's attacks has done the moderate Arab Governments who were speaking out against Hamas no favours whatsoever. They are in a dangerous position where the public is against them meaning even those strongest allied with US will not speak out against Hamas as they would be seen as accomplices with Israel in the deaths.
    Egypt is already facing the wrath of Arab anger for being too cuddly with Israel. No other Muslim Government will be stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.

    Nothing will come from this except deeper divisions within this conflict and Arab world
    I find this logic, or lack thereof, fascinating. So what tactic works with terrorists who seem bent on blowing up your citizens?

    It is illogical to think that Hammas or Hezbolah or any other of the many terrorist groups running rampant in the ME gives a damn about negotiating or compromising.

    I guess you think the better tactic for Israel is to just give up ALL Arab lands and ignore the terrorist attacks, the missile attacks and bombings and play nice with the terrorist thugs who many, like yourself, seem to think they have a "just" cause.

    It's amazing to me the level of ignorance and denial that it must take to think that these brutal murdering thugs can be talked to or reasoned with. There's only ONE thing these thugs understand; the muzzle barrel of a gun to their heads.

    But hey, I am all for being edumacated on the ways of Liberal appeasement; please educate me on the CORRECT tactics for dealing with terrorist thugs.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I stated all 400 Palestinians are innocent?
    I would love to see you quote that

    I recall stating a fact: 400 dead Palestinians, 1 commander.

    True no?
    OK sorry I read your post too fast

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    But hey, I am all for being edumacated on the ways of Liberal appeasement; please educate me on the CORRECT tactics for dealing with terrorist thugs.
    You mean like when Hamas said it may accept a brokered ceasefire? Like that sort of negotiating that is beyond Hamas you mean?

    Why do Conservatives throw the word 'liberal' in an arguement? What a wonderful way to win a arguement :/

    This method has been used numerous times by Israel and the results of them are loud and clear. WHAT WOULD MAKE THIS RAID ANY DIFFERENT?
    Violence creates more violence, not stabilty, especially in one of the most volatile regions of this world in the most complex conflict!

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    OK sorry I read your post too fast
    No harm done =]

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