Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 21

Thread: Coal for Christmas: Brooklyn man's pardon revoked

  1. #1
    Counselor

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Pacific Northwest, Oregon
    Last Seen
    11-07-09 @ 05:25 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    1,856

    mad Coal for Christmas: Brooklyn man's pardon revoked

    Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat. yet according to the article he was a long time criminal. Maybe he was really a Republican at heart.




    General News - Bush withdraws 1 of 19 pardons he issued Tuesday

  2. #2
    Global Moderator
    Silent Bob for President!

    RedAkston's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:11 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    33,773
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Not sure what's so funny? Per the article, it was discovered that the guys father contributed money to the Republican Party and other issues had come to light. I think this speaks to the character of Bush rather than your ill fated attempt to demean it.

    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

  3. #3
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    That really sucks for that dude, if he was on the list of pardons anyway and got denied after he was told he'd be pardoned, just because his family contributed money. Especially on Christmas Eve.

    I never understood why presidents don't just go gung-ho with the pardons during their last weeks in office. What's Bush worried about? That his approval rating might go down?
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  4. #4
    Sage
    bhkad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Last Seen
    08-13-10 @ 01:01 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    10,745

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That really sucks for that dude, if he was on the list of pardons anyway and got denied after he was told he'd be pardoned, just because his family contributed money. Especially on Christmas Eve.

    I never understood why presidents don't just go gung-ho with the pardons during their last weeks in office. What's Bush worried about? That his approval rating might go down?
    He's worried about the principle of showing favoritism to campaign donors. Principle is something many Libs can't understand.

    And he's worried about the appearance of impropriety. Appearance is virtually the only thing most Libs all understand.

    OBL 11/24/02

  5. #5
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    He's worried about the principle of showing favoritism to campaign donors.
    I understand, I just wonder why he should care at this point. Especially since it sounds like he was going to pardon the guy anyway, before he found out about the campaign donation. It's not like Bush has to worry about public disapproval.

    I could see this maybe being more of an issue if he had issued the pardon after his first year in office. But now?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad
    Principle is something many Libs can't understand.
    Everything is a partisan issue to you, isn't it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad
    And he's worried about the appearance of impropriety.
    He's only going to be president for a few more weeks. This is certainly an odd time to worry about the appearance of impropriety. He can pardon every campaign donor, and I won't complain. Everyone who will ever disapprove of Bush has already moved on.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  6. #6
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    And speaking of pardons, on a more political note: When are we going to get a president who pardons every non-violent drug offender in prison? That would do more than any government program ever could to alleviate crime and poverty.

    Alas, it doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  7. #7
    Sage
    bhkad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Last Seen
    08-13-10 @ 01:01 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    10,745

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I understand, I just wonder why he should care at this point. Especially since it sounds like he was going to pardon the guy anyway, before he found out about the campaign donation. It's not like Bush has to worry about public disapproval.

    I could see this maybe being more of an issue if he had issued the pardon after his first year in office. But now?



    Everything is a partisan issue to you, isn't it.



    He's only going to be president for a few more weeks. This is certainly an odd time to worry about the appearance of impropriety. He can pardon every campaign donor, and I won't complain. Everyone who will ever disapprove of Bush has already moved on.
    As if you never have nor ever would say anything about the possibility of high level corruption?


    OBL 11/24/02

  8. #8
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And speaking of pardons, on a more political note: When are we going to get a president who pardons every non-violent drug offender in prison? That would do more than any government program ever could to alleviate crime and poverty.

    Alas, it doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon.
    Quite the opposite. It would destroy tens of thousands of prison jobs and put hundreds of thousands of people without marketable skills back into the labor force. Recipe for disaster.

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    08-29-17 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    16,575

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Quite the opposite. It would destroy tens of thousands of prison jobs and put hundreds of thousands of people without marketable skills back into the labor force. Recipe for disaster.
    Yeah instead of spending money on training programs for non-violent drug offenders so they CAN be a positive to society, let's just keep them locked away.

    Sorry but I fail to see a reason to keep the marijuana user behind bars, just because some upity people in power can't get it through their thick skulls that marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes.

  10. #10
    Conservative Independent
    DarkWizard12's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Tyler TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    7,562

    Re: Bush discovers that he is pardoning a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That really sucks for that dude, if he was on the list of pardons anyway and got denied after he was told he'd be pardoned, just because his family contributed money. Especially on Christmas Eve.

    I never understood why presidents don't just go gung-ho with the pardons during their last weeks in office. What's Bush worried about? That his approval rating might go down?
    this is why his approval is at 18% and not 19% lol

    so, who wants to tell TOT that Bush revoked his parden? lol.
    Last edited by DarkWizard12; 12-25-08 at 01:08 PM.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •