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    Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

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    Rampant consumerism will not lead to any nations wealth.
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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Rampant consumerism will not lead to any nations wealth.
    What makes you think that? Consumerism is great for the economy

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

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    Neither does rampant Marxism.
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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    It amazes me that anyone at all admires this man. He is so predictable. Funny thing is, I don't hear a lot of people in this country wishing we had a leader like him any more. (We may have one come January though.)

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    It amazes me that anyone at all admires this man. He is so predictable. Funny thing is, I don't hear a lot of people in this country wishing we had a leader like him any more. (We may have one come January though.)
    Well he,s primarily admired because despite his many faults he is making a possitive difference by giving people access to health care and education when previously they had none, reducing poverty rates etc. I dislike the regimes he,s building alliances with and find his meglomania somewhat disturbing and extreamly annoying. However the fact of the matter is that he represents an alternative to the neoliberal economic model thats been forced on the continent, primarily through violence, and is evidently not working.

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Neither does rampant Marxism.
    He is not a Marxist, he is a petit-bourgeois populist acting as a safety valve for capitalism in Venezuela and South America in general.

    he represents an alternative to the neoliberal economic model thats been forced on the continent
    This "alternative" is actually what is perpetuating the status quo and preventing any real change, i.e. the overthrow of capitalism in Venezuela/South America.

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    He is not a Marxist, he is a petit-bourgeois populist acting as a safety valve for capitalism in Venezuela and South America in general.



    This "alternative" is actually what is perpetuating the status quo and preventing any real change, i.e. the overthrow of capitalism in Venezuela/South America.
    Well look at the stats. Try comparing Venezuela to a south american country thats relatively free market such as Peru or Brazil and you will see what i mean. Im not so much concerned about whether his policys are overthrowing capitalism or not as much as whether or not they are working.

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well look at the stats. Try comparing Venezuela to a south american country thats relatively free market such as Peru or Brazil and you will see what i mean. Im not so much concerned about whether his policys are overthrowing capitalism or not as much as whether or not they are working.
    In your comparison, you might want look at the the oil factor.

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Well look at the stats. Try comparing Venezuela to a south american country thats relatively free market such as Peru or Brazil and you will see what i mean. Im not so much concerned about whether his policys are overthrowing capitalism or not as much as whether or not they are working.
    Working in what sense? They are certainly working to stem the revolutionary tide that has been brewing on the continent for the past few decades. This is of course until his "reforms" fail, which they inevitably will, considering the fact that they are governed by oil prices, which are doing terribly right now, and that they are the first things done away with during a crisis in capitalism.

    So if by "working" you mean temporarily letting off some steam and containing the revolutionary sentiment before another plunge into poverty, corruption and violence then you would be right.

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    Re: Chavez says mall to be expropriated in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    In your comparison, you might want look at the the oil factor.
    I agree that the oil helps but I dont think its soley a case of what the resources are as much as how they are distributed. Peru has tremendous natural resources but ordinary Peruvians are seeing none of it.
    Last edited by Red_Dave; 12-23-08 at 02:02 PM.

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