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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    To Middle Eastern countries including Iran. It has used military actions more times than any other country within that region. It has killed more civilians and done more damage to other countries more than ever has been done to them.
    Israel has had to resort to military actions because it has repeatedly been attacked by its neighbors. Do you expect Israel to do NOTHING in response to repeated rocket attacks and other violations of its security?

    Not anymore
    There has NEVER been a independent Palestinian state.

    Israel has done its fair share so neither side is exactly innocent.
    Israel has the right under the UN Charter to defend itself. It's existance is at stake. The same can not be said for any other state in the region (except Lebanon - but Israel has little to go with that situation)
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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Do you expect Israel to do NOTHING in response to repeated rocket attacks and other violations of its security?
    I expect it to show restraint not starve every Palestinians for the actions of a few.

    Israel has the right under the UN Charter to defend itself. It's existance is at stake. The same can not be said for any other state in the region (except Lebanon - but Israel has little to go with that situation)

    Its highly sensationalized, Israel is there to stay. Everyone knows its. I think it uses the excuse its existence is in danger [which would be impossible with US at its side]


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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I expect it to show restraint not starve every Palestinians for the actions of a few.
    Sorry, Israel needs to cut off supplies to the terrorists. If the terrorists want to hide behind innocent people, those innocent people should do something about it. Remember, those people voted for Hamas. They are getting what they asked for.

    Its highly sensationalized, Israel is there to stay. Everyone knows its. I think it uses the excuse its existence is in danger [which would be impossible with US at its side]
    Israel is there to stay because it is willing to do what is necessary to protect its people and its existance, NOT because of the goodwill of its Arab neighbors.
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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Sorry, Israel needs to cut off supplies to the terrorists. If the terrorists want to hide behind innocent people, those innocent people should do something about it. Remember, those people voted for Hamas. They are getting what they asked for.
    Israel has succeeded in making itself out even worse in the Arab world.
    It has hit a new low, starving children and blocking medical is something i'd expect from Taliban and Al Qaeda

    Israel is there to stay because it is willing to do what is necessary to protect its people and its existance, NOT because of the goodwill of its Arab neighbors.
    Israel is there to stay because it has support from United States and has ensured that its military can defend itself.
    Do you expect goodwill to be given to Israel by ME or even Muslim countries? Seriously?


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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Israel has succeeded in making itself out even worse in the Arab world.
    It has hit a new low, starving children and blocking medical is something i'd expect from Taliban and Al Qaeda
    What alternative does Israel have considering that any supplies that get through will also get to the terrorists.

    Israel is there to stay because it has support from United States and has ensured that its military can defend itself.
    Do you expect goodwill to be given to Israel by ME or even Muslim countries? Seriously?
    The problem is the Arabs, NOT Israel. Once the Arabs accept that Israel is there to stay and has the right to live in security, then we can talk. Short of that, Israel has the right to protect itself from those who would try to destroy her.
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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    What alternative does Israel have considering that any supplies that get through will also get to the terrorists.
    I don't know but i do know angering the Palestinians further does not help them at all.

    The problem is the Arabs, NOT Israel. Once the Arabs accept that Israel is there to stay and has the right to live in security, then we can talk. Short of that, Israel has the right to protect itself from those who would try to destroy her.
    Israel also has the fair share of the blame. It is not only Arab's fault.
    Arabs should recognise Israel but after Israel withdraws to previous UN borders, dismantles all illegal settlements and preferably give back Al Asqa.


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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't know but i do know angering the Palestinians further does not help them at all.
    If you don't have a solution, then keep silent until you do. The Israel government is doing what it has to do to protect its people.

    Israel also has the fair share of the blame. It is not only Arab's fault.
    Arabs should recognise Israel but after Israel withdraws to previous UN borders, dismantles all illegal settlements and preferably give back Al Asqa.
    Israel tried that with Gaza and look where it has gotten them!
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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post

    Israel tried that with Gaza and look where it has gotten them!
    Israel has withdrawn to UN borders, given back the soverign land of Arab countries and dismantled all illegal settlements? I think not.

    No one has the solution for this conflict, why do you think it is still going on


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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Israel has withdrawn to UN borders, given back the soverign land of Arab countries and dismantled all illegal settlements? I think not.

    No one has the solution for this conflict, why do you think it is still going on
    Israel took an important first step a few years ago by withdrawing from Gaza, and all they get for their troubles is more rocket attacks into southern Israel and incursions from the north.

    Israel has taken a step in the right direction, and not only have the Arabs not recipricated, they have stepped up the pressure.
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    Re: Major Israeli settlement 'unlawful'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Israel has the right under the UN Charter to defend itself. It's existance is at stake. The same can not be said for any other state in the region (except Lebanon - but Israel has little to go with that situation)
    The UN says a lot of other things, too:

    List of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    # Resolution 111: " ... 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
    # Resolution 127: " ... 'recommends' Israel suspends its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
    # Resolution 162: " ... 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
    # Resolution 171: " ... determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
    # Resolution 228: " ... 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
    # Resolution 237: " ... 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
    # Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967): Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area. Calls on Israel's neighbors to end the state of belligerency and calls upon Israel to reciprocate by withdraw its forces from land claimed by other parties in 1967 war. Interpreted commonly today as calling for the Land for peace principle as a way to resolve Arab-Israeli conflict
    # Resolution 248: " ... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
    # Resolution 250: " ... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
    # Resolution 251: " ... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
    # Resolution 252: " ... 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
    # Resolution 256: " ... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
    # Resolution 259: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
    # Resolution 262: " ... 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
    # Resolution 265: " ... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
    # Resolution 267: " ... 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
    # Resolution 270: " ... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
    # Resolution 271: " ... 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
    # Resolution 279: " ... 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
    # Resolution 280: " ... 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
    # Resolution 285: " ... 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
    # Resolution 298: " ... 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
    # Resolution 313: " ... 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
    # Resolution 316: " ... 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
    # Resolution 317: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
    # Resolution 332: " ... 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
    # Resolution 337: " ... 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
    # Resolution 338 (22 October 1973): cease fire in Yom Kippur War
    # Resolution 339 (23 October 1973): Confirms Res. 338, dispatch UN observers.
    # Resolution 347: " ... 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
    # Resolution 3379: "...'establishes' Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination". Repealed by Resolution 46/86.
    # Resolution 425 (1978): " ... 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon". Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon was completed as of 16 June 2000.
    # Resolution 350 (31 May 1974) established the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, to monitor the ceasefire between Israel and Syria in the wake of the Yom Kippur War.
    # Resolution 427: " ... 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon".
    # Resolution 444: " ... 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
    # Resolution 446 (1979): 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
    # Resolution 450: " ... 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
    # Resolution 452: " ... 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
    # Resolution 465: " ... 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
    # Resolution 467: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
    # Resolution 468: " ... 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
    # Resolution 469: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians".
    # Resolution 471: " ... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
    # Resolution 476: " ... 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
    # Resolution 478 (20 August 1980): 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'.
    # Resolution 484: " ... 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors".
    # Resolution 487: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility".
    # Resolution 497 (17 December 1981) decides that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith.
    # Resolution 498: " ... 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
    # Resolution 501: " ... 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
    # Resolution 508:
    # Resolution 509: " ... 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
    # Resolution 515: " ... 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in".
    # Resolution 517: " ... 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
    # Resolution 518: " ... 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
    # Resolution 520: " ... 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
    # Resolution 573: " ... 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters.
    # Resolution 587 " ... 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
    # Resolution 592: " ... 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
    # Resolution 605: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians.
    # Resolution 607: " ... 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
    # Resolution 608: " ... 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
    # Resolution 636: " ... 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
    # Resolution 641: " ... 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
    # Resolution 672: " ... 'condemns' Israel for "violence against Palestinians" at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
    # Resolution 673: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.
    # Resolution 681: " ... 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.
    # Resolution 694: " ... 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
    # Resolution 726: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
    # Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
    # Resolution 1559 (2 September 2004) called upon Lebanon to establish its sovereignty over all of its land and called upon Syria to end their military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias to disband.
    # Resolution 1583 (28 January 2005) calls on Lebanon to assert full control over its border with Israel. It also states that "the Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for the purpose of confirming Israel's withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425.
    # Resolution 1648 (21 December 2005) renewed the mandate of United Nations Disengagement Observer Force until 30 June 2006.
    # Resolution 1701 (11 August 2006) called for the full cessation of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah.

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