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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Or perhaps you need a reality check and a slap in the face.....

    The sooner people can realize that THIS IS THE WESTERN WORLD, and in the western world we are free to be ourselves and whoever we want to be; its certainly not a crime to be gay, and its not wrong to be gay. 1 in 10 people (statiscally speaking) are gay, you know a gay person, be it there "in the closet" so to speak, or not.

    If anybody here cant come to terms with it than i recommend moving to Iran; its like the salem witch trials down there, only with gay guys.
    What is your source for 1 in 10? If it is the original Kinsey report, that was retracted....
    I suspect that 10% might be valid in NYC or San Francisco, but not across the USA...
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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Homosexuality, like stealing and drug addiction can be under treatment if this is necessary to control such negative desires before became behaviors.
    Why is homosexuality a negative desire?
    How is homosexuality like stealing and drug addiction? How is stealing even like drug addiction? What is the treatment for stealing?

    What does "to control such negative desires before became behaviors" mean?

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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    From what I've read, stealing tends to be something all people are prone to - we just learn to control the urges or are taught by parents and role models not to.
    You can do the same with homosexuality, you can teach continually to children and adults as well to control such inclination. You yourself can stop trying to steal something just by remembering that such act is negative. Homosexuals can do the same by learning that they are doing acts againast their own physical and mental integrity.

    Drugs - I think if you inject drugs regularly into someone they can become dependent upon them.
    With homosexuality you have a worst scenario, you don't need to inject physically homosexuality into people, the only thing needed is to propagate the idea that being homosexual is ok.

    Either way - being gay cant be caught or passed on or taught. You use poor analogies to make a poor point.
    And that is the point, you didn't born homosexual, you just caught it, was passed on you, or it was taught to you. The solution is to reverse those steps.



    And what makes homosexuality "negative?"
    Tell what "positive" you find in somebody making your rectum bleed.

    Having homosexuality spreading into society the human species is at risk. The argument that "artificial insemination" can be the solution is false. In a sexual intercourse between a man and a woman, the strongest sperms are the ones surviving and reaching the ovary. With artificial insemination you have no idea of what sperm you are coupling for fertilization.

    I think homosexuals need "mental treatment" as much as they need an octogenarian with dubious WW2 history that represents an out of date understanding of the world and the universe preaching rubbish at them.
    If we have reached the current worldwide status is because those "old teachings" have survived by generations. If millenniums ago homosexuality was the common denominator in the human species, we should not be here at all. We must protect our species, not so to degrade it.
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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    And I can't believe you are seriously trying to compare homosexuality to stealing and being a drug addict.
    He's not. It's amazing how many people rely on this trick of arguing that another poster is absurdly comparing x to z.

    He's stretching the logic that says if homosexuality is a genetic trait then we must allow/tolerate/accept ~insert behavior~. If that is the case, then what other genetic traits must compel us to allow/tolerate/accept ~insert behavior~.

    The poster is not suggesting that drug use, theft are analogous to homsoexuality. He is suggesting that if you're going to argue that the genetic basis for homosexuality requires us to allow/tolerate/accept gay marriage or any other activity, then you must apply that logic consistently and that would have absurd results such as allowing/tolerating/accepting crime because someone may be genetically predisposed to committing crime.

    Get it?

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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Why is homosexuality a negative desire?
    How is homosexuality like stealing and drug addiction? How is stealing even like drug addiction? What is the treatment for stealing?

    What does "to control such negative desires before became behaviors" mean?
    Education is the key.

    How did you learn to walk with your two legs? Your parents taught you so, if you don't believe me, please ask them, they will tell you how they hold your hands up and helped you to start your first walking steps. If not from your parents you copied it from other humans. In cases where children were adopted by wolves and apes, those children walked with "four legs", because such was what they did learn from their adopters.

    About controlling the desires before becoming behaviors. The attempt to steal is the desire. You teach the child to control himself for not to steal and his attempts might be lesser. On the other hand, you never teach your child not to steal, his desires will become his behavior.

    Comprende?

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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    Human desires or behaviors can be positive or negative not only to the individuals as species but also to the individuals as part of society.

    Homosexuality, like stealing and drug addiction can be under treatment if this is necessary to control such negative desires before became behaviors.
    And I'm asking you how homosexual behavior is negative.

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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

    Tell what "positive" you find in somebody making your rectum bleed.
    What does that have to do with homosexuality?

    Anal sex does not cause the rectum to bleed if it is done properly (i.e. with enough lube and taking it at a comfortable pace, just like normal sex).


    Having homosexuality spreading into society the human species is at risk.
    There is no proof to this claim; it is a huge slippery slope. Also, having the option of not wanting to have kids puts the human species at risk as well, from the same logic; should procreation be mandated?

    The argument that "artificial insemination" can be the solution is false. In a sexual intercourse between a man and a woman, the strongest sperms are the ones surviving and reaching the ovary. With artificial insemination you have no idea of what sperm you are coupling for fertilization.
    Wow.

    Do you have proof for this or is this just some incredibly stupid Darwinian logic completely inappropriately applied?

    This quote is effing gold.

    How did you learn to walk with your two legs? Your parents taught you so, if you don't believe me, please ask them, they will tell you how they hold your hands up and helped you to start your first walking steps. If not from your parents you copied it from other humans. In cases where children were adopted by wolves and apes, those children walked with "four legs", because such was what they did learn from their adopters.
    How did you learn to see? How did you learn to ****? How did you learn to know when you are hungry? These are more accurate comparisons, given the fact that homosexuality is not a choice or a behavior but an innate trait.

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    Re: Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

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    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



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