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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    The reason I don't care for anime, hentai, etc is because it very hard for a person to casually view it (on the net) without inevitably having the image of some prepubescent girl being raped by some obscenely large phallus.
    I have known some situation like this guy is facing would happen eventually.
    I didn't want it to be me!

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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    20 years ??
    Yet a man can rape and get away with it in some cases. A child can be molested and the man receives a slap on the wrist.

    Does our criminal justice "system" need reform or what ???

    BTW, I have observed that the punishment for committing a crime against the state is far more severe than committing the same against an individual...

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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    I'm not sure why everyone is so up in arms over this at this point. He faces up to 20 years if found guilty. The case hasn't even happened yet, so he hasn't even been found guilty.

    We don't know all the facts of the case yet, and we don't know the situation fully.

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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

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    - 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga - Anime News Network



    Iowa Collector Charged for Allegedly Obscene Manga (Update 2) - Anime News Network



    So basically there's this dude. He likes anime (who doesn't) and collects manga and such. I can relate, I do too. Ordered some stuff from Japan, Post Office inspector general opens it, thinks it's obscene. Police get a warrant and bust down his door. Now he faces up to 20 years for manga. For those that may not know, manga is sorta like comic books. Now there's lots of strange things from Japan, including but not limited to lolicon. I don't know if that's what he had or not, but I don't understand how you get 20 years even if it is lolicon. It's drawn, there's no people involved, there's no rights violated, so how can there be a crime? I'm of the opinion that crime can only occur when rights are violated, or potentially so. The potentially so is going to have to be a case involving actual live people, not drawings. Drawings are drawings and nothing more. Hentai may be "obscene", but that's sorta the point. Like all porn really, and porn in general isn't banned.

    I think this whole case to be absurd and an overstepping of the authority into the lives of the individual. Almost makes me wonder if I have anything considered "obscene". Or what the government really consideres "obscene". It seems to me that they made the definition loose enough so that they allowed themselves way too much freedom of movement. It's not right, and this law should definitely be stricken from the books.
    1.) It's a violation of the 1st Amendment. A few years back the SCOTUS ruled that cartoon dipictions of sex are protected speech -- even when they depict children. In this case it's a misnomer because anime often dipicts people as being younger than they are.

    2.) The postmaster does not have the right to view other peoples mail. He can verify there are no illegal chemicals, foods, anthrax ect... but he or she IS NOT allowed to read or watch mail belonging to other people.

    3.) This guy is going to be VERY wealthy when his case gets thrown out and he sues the sorry assholes, which include the State and Federal government, for all they are worth.

    Clearly, the moral majority have just ****ed themselves yet again.

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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm not sure why everyone is so up in arms over this at this point. He faces up to 20 years if found guilty. The case hasn't even happened yet, so he hasn't even been found guilty.

    We don't know all the facts of the case yet, and we don't know the situation fully.
    Because the case is real simple. It doesn't matter what the manga was about, it's manga. It's drawn, there are no real people. He shouldn't be placed through the ringer or even have the chance to face 20 years in prison. This is a non-crime and there is no reason to force someone to spend time and money, possibly lose their job, create all sorts of inconvenience for a non-crime. This is not the government's business, and this is not within their power.
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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    1.) It's a violation of the 1st Amendment. A few years back the SCOTUS ruled that cartoon dipictions of sex are protected speech -- even when they depict children. In this case it's a misnomer because anime often dipicts people as being younger than they are.

    2.) The postmaster does not have the right to view other peoples mail. He can verify there are no illegal chemicals, foods, anthrax ect... but he or she IS NOT allowed to read or watch mail belonging to other people.

    3.) This guy is going to be VERY wealthy when his case gets thrown out and he sues the sorry assholes, which include the State and Federal government, for all they are worth.

    Clearly, the moral majority have just ****ed themselves yet again.
    He should sue the piss out of the county, state, and federal government. The government needs to learn a lesson on this one.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    Isn't Ash Ketchum like 30 years old?
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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Isn't Ash Ketchum like 30 years old?
    Only a obscene Manga collecting Pedophile will know the answer to that one!
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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    Wow 20 years for drawn sexually explicit material. You have got to be kidding me.

    Does the government have anything better to do?

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    Re: 20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    That is strange. Japan has some pretty strict porn laws. I use to export photo books there and Madonna's Sex book was a hit there it was illegal however and when Japanese customs caught them they would send them back.
    Yeah. I think photographs of vaginas are actually illegal there.
    I mean, look at "Tubgirl".
    They're allowed to show somebody's butthole with liquid crap spewing out of it, but they blur out her vagina.
    That's weird. But, you know, it's a different culture.

    It seems to me that in a culture this unhealthily repressed when it comes to ordinary, garden-variety nudity and sexuality, a couple of things will happen: one, they'll become very adept at creating animated pornography, and two, they'll become a little bit twisted and fetishistic.
    Both of which are true of the Japanese.

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