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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I am 90% in agreement, There does need to be more clear rules and oversight, but to put 5 people in prison for the rest of thier lives because as you say they may have panicked in a war zone is a travesty.

    That can be spelled out in the contract.
    I do sympathize with their situation. I can only imagine what it is like to be in combat, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Personally I do not feel it is appropriate to label these contractors as civilians specifically due to the environment they are in. There should be understanding in situations like this, but first there needs to be a sound system in place to analyze it.

    Imo they should be held under stricter codes of conduct than a civilian due to being in an environment where they hold every advantage over the Iraqi citizen, but with that comes exceptions for conduct while under duress. A scared civilian shooting others in New York City should be charged with manslaughter but the situation in Iraq cannot be defined by our domestic justice system. It would be more appropriate to place those contractors under the military's jurisdiction.

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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    I do sympathize with their situation. I can only imagine what it is like to be in combat, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Personally I do not feel it is appropriate to label these contractors as civilians specifically due to the environment they are in. There should be understanding in situations like this, but first there needs to be a sound system in place to analyze it.

    Imo they should be held under stricter codes of conduct than a civilian due to being in an environment where they hold every advantage over the Iraqi citizen, but with that comes exceptions for conduct while under duress. A scared civilian shooting others in New York City should be charged with manslaughter but the situation in Iraq cannot be defined by our domestic justice system. It would be more appropriate to place those contractors under the military's jurisdiction.



    Look all partisan banter aside, I would accept them being held under the UCMJ rules this would prevent the nonsense against them we hear today.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Blackwater are criminals? in what jurisdiction? what crime has Blackwater committed.....
    They are private people in a foreign country going around shooting and killing people?
    If I went to Iraq and started killing people that my government deem bad then I would certainly be a criminal in Iraq and deserve penalty.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    They are private people in a foreign country going around shooting and killing people?

    Statments like this make you look like a liar or an ignoramus, your choice.


    If I went to Iraq and started killing people that my government deem bad then I would certainly be a criminal in Iraq and deserve penalty.

    I think if YOU went to iraq, you would pee your pants.


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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Statments like this make you look like a liar or an ignoramus, your choice.

    They arrest people and resort to violence, both those things are a crime. They are a private company.. There are many incidents where blackwater people have killed Iraqis and done other horrendous acts.. They ARE criminals just for being there and doing the things they do. Actually the US government is the criminals for allowing it.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    They arrest people and resort to violence, both those things are a crime. They are a private company.. There are many incidents where blackwater people have killed Iraqis and done other horrendous acts.. They ARE criminals just for being there and doing the things they do. Actually the US government is the criminals for allowing it.



    You have a very overactive imagination.....
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    I believe Zeebra has shown his true colors: a poseur of anti-americanism that peddles specious arguments with no basis in factual support (made obviously apparent by his infantile understanding of the Geneva Conventions). It comes as no surprise that such a narrow-minded and resentful individual would spout nonsense such as "America is worse than the Nazis". A truly sad example of how freedom and unlimited information is powerless to overcome the self imposed biases of the mind.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I believe Zeebra has shown his true colors: a poseur of anti-americanism that peddles specious arguments with no basis in factual support (made obviously apparent by his infantile understanding of the Geneva Conventions). It comes as no surprise that such a narrow-minded and resentful individual would spout nonsense such as "America is worse than the Nazis". A truly sad example of how freedom and unlimited information is powerless to overcome the self imposed biases of the mind.
    And the trolling is back. Thank you for your view on me.. I will refrain from explaining my view on you, if I did I would get banned.


    You dont know what you are talking about.. Its okay, I forgive you.. You cant actually help it.
    You never actually read what I wrote, nor responded to it in a proper way. Its easy to sum it all up with a personal attack, which is your speciality.. But I am simply better than you in all ways so I will refrain from doing the same.

    Thank you again for proving me right..
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    And the trolling is back. Thank you for your view on me.. I will refrain from explaining my view on you, if I did I would get banned.


    You dont know what you are talking about.. Its okay, I forgive you.. You cant actually help it.
    You never actually read what I wrote, nor responded to it in a proper way. Its easy to sum it all up with a personal attack, which is your speciality.. But I am simply better than you in all ways so I will refrain from doing the same.

    Thank you again for proving me right..
    This thread is full of so much fail.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    This thread is full
    Nope, not yet.. I am just awaiting the cavalary of the group of "special republicans" to arrive here and the thread moved to the basement so that I can take of my gloves and give you guys a real round of beatings.
    You have already ruined this thread, but dont blame me when you end up going home to your mamma's crying as a result of me responding in a similar fashion(which I will once the thread is in the basement).
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