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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

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    Me thinks you are a Liberaltarian.
    What an intelligent conclusion! How ever did you deduce such a thing?

    Facts get in the way of your world view?
    Hardly. Keep sipping, buddy.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    ""What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
    In the end the French didnt go, because the evidence was so weak and the cause not there, and guess what, they were clearly right!
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

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    Err... lets see.. an islamonazi terrorist hooking up with a rogue nation that is very non religious for the region, treats women relatively nicely (they could vote and join the army after all), or shack up with a rogue nation that is a religous nutjob state, shares the same values and even practices them...yea right
    This is the mind of an Obama supporter.

    Treats women very nicely. May your sister, or other half be treated as nicely as Uday and Kusay treated the Iraqi women.

    They could vote! Yes, 100% of the people voted for Saddam. And if you didn't? LOL.

    No chance the terrorists and Butcher of Baghdad would ally themselves to harm a common enemy. No. They have standards. An image to uphold. Just like Osama saying he would never bomb civilian targets. Wait! He did that, and then is on tape laughing like hell about it.

    Must have been a Bush Administration conspricay theory video shot in the basement of the White House.

    PS. Don't play with sharp objects.

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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    In the end the French didnt go, because the evidence was so weak and the cause not there, and guess what, they were clearly right!



    Wrong they did not go because the were involved in the worlds largest embezzlement scheme with Hussein period. Same with Germany.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Wrong they did not go because the were involved in the worlds largest embezzlement scheme with Hussein period. Same with Germany.
    Yeah, sure, that is the reason




    Is that what the republican party wants you to believe?
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Yeah, sure, that is the reason



    John J. Miller on France & Iraq on National Review Online



    For starters.






    Is that what the republican party wants you to believe?

    Don't be so obtuse. The republican party does not even claim this. However if you decide to think for yourself, it becomes clear what some of the factors were.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Even if any of this was true it wouldn't matter because the impact and the effects are so tiny. Even if Iraq donated their whole GDP to Germany and France it would only account for a tiny fraction of GDP in France and Germany.
    Secondly even if it was true it wouldn't be one of the main reasons, but perhaps one reason out of say 50 whereas 10ish was very important, including the weak evidence and the lack of need to go to war in Iraq.
    Why the hell go to Iraq instead of some African country?



    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Don't be so obtuse. The republican party does not even claim this. However if you decide to think for yourself, it becomes clear what some of the factors were.

    Sorry. It was partly a joke.. But seriously, move that theory to the conspiracy forum for now.



    Ps. Corruption in politics is one of the most severe dangers to the west in general, I doubt the Saddam bribes if they ever existed would account for much of general bribes. Corruption is definetely something we must get rid of in the west to pride ourself in or politics, and the only way to do it is to rebuild politics and create enormously strong political foundations and institutions.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Then they simply kidnapped and imprisoned foreigners.
    Yes and POWs are "kidnapped and imprisoned foreigners" too by your standards. You obviously have never even LOOKED at the Geneva conventions otherwise you could precisely state why "kidnapped and imprisoned foreigners" who fight lawful uniformed soldiers is a violation. But you don't because all you have is unsubstantiated opinion and a flurry of emotions as your support.

    We get it. You don't like the US' policies. Its your opinion and you are entitled to it. But, just so you know, no one really cares what a "Maximus Zeebra" on an internet forum board believes is right or wrong.

    If you think the US has violated some law or agreement then state it and show proof of the violation. So far you have done nothing of the sort except to make vague references which when looked into do not support your arguments in the least.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Yes and POWs are "kidnapped and imprisoned foreigners" too by your standards. You obviously have never even LOOKED at the Geneva conventions otherwise you could precisely state why "kidnapped and imprisoned foreigners" who fight lawful uniformed soldiers is a violation. But you can;t because all you is unsubstantiated opinion and a flurry of emotions as your support.

    We get it. You don't like the US' policies. Its your opinion and you are entitled to it. But, just so you know no one really cares what a "Maximus Zeebra" on an internet forum board believes is right or wrong.

    If you think the US has violated some law or agreement then state it and show proof of the violation. So far you have done nothing of the sort except to make vague references which when looked into do not support your arguments in the least.
    No, prisoners of war are prisoners of war under the Geneva convention. you said these people aren't under the Geneva convention, and they certainly aren't prisoners of war, nor unlawful US citizens.

    You obviously care, else you wouldn't reply.
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    Re: Guantanamo closure plan ordered

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its nice to see how tolerant and intelligent Americans are.. I have actually read the Koran volunteered.. And If you care to debate about Christianity, Islam and Judaism I am up for the debate, I have also read the bible btw..
    In my opinion Christians were mislead into sin and ignorance by Jesus Christ, its only a matter of time before our sinful radicalism ruins the world.
    No religions are perfect, but the old testament sure is a good way to understand how to live a good life free of sins, and the new testament is sure a good way to tear apart that foundation.
    Thanks Max! Ignorance and intolerance are my claim to fame. I have worked many years honing it to an art form.

    But don't get me started on the bible-thumpers too. I got pages and pages of material to dump on them with.
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