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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I can't say for sure. I do know that I would never even attempt wearing a hat in a courtroom.



    *gasp!*

    Call out the national guard!
    This "disrespect" is untenetable!


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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post



    *gasp!*

    Call out the national guard!
    This "disrespect" is untenetable!

    I thought the womens movement of the 60's -70's fought for equal rights for women. Except for when its convenient to be treated differently then men.

    Did you read my last post on the real reason she was most likely found to be in contempt? I think if she would have simply left the court room and kept her fat mouth shut she would have not been arrested. But she had to mouth off. If she had cursed in my courtroom I would have sent her butt to jail, if I was a judge that is.
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Source [Yahoo News! (AP) | Ga. judge jails Muslim woman over head scarf]

    A judge ordered Lisa Valentine, 40, to serve 10 days in jail for contempt of court, said police in Douglasville, a city of about 20,000 people on Atlanta's west suburban outskirts.

    Valentine violated a court policy that prohibits people from wearing any headgear in court, police said after they arrested her Tuesday.

    Kelley Jackson, a spokeswoman for Georgia Attorney General Thurbert Baker, said state law doesn't permit or prohibit head scarfs.

    "It's at the discretion of the judge and the sheriffs and is up to the security officers in the court house to enforce their decision," she said.
    The charge was indeed Contempt of Court, and the court's policy does not violate any state laws. It also sounds like the policy is indeed a security measure. IOW, the court is entirely in the right, and the woman is entirely out of line.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Source: New York Times
    Date: Dec 17, 2008



    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2008...rest.html?_r=2

    In America it is disrespectful to wear a hat or head covering in a courtroom. Not the same as a church where the woman retains her head gear ??

    The real question posed by this story is whether American law or Islamic law must give way when the two conflict.

    You know what they say " when in Rome do as the Romans do" if its against your religion then stay the hell out of Rome.
    I'd say "Islamic law be damned"..The woman was wrong, she is out of order, and she is not cognizant of her surroundings.....

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    In America it is disrespectful to wear a hat or head covering in a courtroom.

    The real question posed by this story is whether American law or Islamic law must give way when the two conflict.

    You know what they say " when in Rome do as the Romans do" if its against your religion then stay the hell out of Rome.
    I gotta agree with ya 100% on this one! Same goes for choosing to live in this country, enjoy our freedoms and learning to speak our language!

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post



    *gasp!*

    Call out the national guard!
    This "disrespect" is untenetable!

    So you found some picture of a woman with her head covered from some bygone era when women were expected to keep their heads covered. Did you have some kind of point or were you just blathering on in that way you do?

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    So anybody want to discuss whether or not the freedom to exercise religion clause is valid in tax payer funded institutions?
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    It was the second time Rollins ordered Valentine arrested. She spent 24 hours behind bars last year for wearing her hijab in his courtroom.
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    Her second offense? Sounds like she went looking for trouble...

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Gault View Post
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    Her second offense? Sounds like she went looking for trouble...
    This woman isn't doing anything that is not supported by the freedom to exercise religion clause. Unless of course you're saying that once you're in an American court room your legal right to exercise religion as long as it is lawful no longer exists? This isn't a private business or an airport. This is a tax payer funded location. The constitution still applies doesn't it?
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Much depends on separate yet intermingled corollaries. Era, location, code of law, and customary proscription. As an example, if you substitute an Arab courtroom in the ME for the Georgia courtroom, the same result can occur due to the applicable considerations. A woman's outright refusal to obey a judge's order to cover her hair in this scenario would also result in unpleasant consequences.

    The old maxim seems to be most apt... When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

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