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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    Right.


    So should a private citizen be able to enter the White House or the Capital Building on a civilian tour in a burka without being searched because they claim to be Muslim?

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

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    Indeed. Drop the mouse now, and step away from the avatar!

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

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    So should a private citizen be able to enter the White House or the Capital Building on a civilian tour in a burka without being searched because they claim to be Muslim?
    Well, I'd certainly say no to that, but if a state legislature specifically excludes religious headgear from the no-hat policy in their state courts, then the judge was in error in his ruling.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, I'd certainly say no to that, but if a state legislature specifically excludes religious headgear from the no-hat policy in their state courts, then the judge was in error in his ruling.
    If that were the case he definitely would, but where are you getting that from?

    Either way I think she was violating courtroom policy, not an actual law. I would guess that she was charged with contempt of court, or disorderly conduct, or some such tangential charge

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    My suspicion is that the policy was enacted to prevent gang bangers (and their girlfriends, and their babies, and whoever) from entering the courtroom flying their colors.
    That's just a hunch.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    If that were the case he definitely would, but where are you getting that from?

    Either way I think she was violating courtroom policy, not an actual law. I would guess that she was charged with contempt of court, or disorderly conduct, or some such tangential charge
    I got it from Hautey's post, showing Georgia law providing an exception for religious headgear. This incident happened in Georgia. Have I misread something?

    I don't think a judge has a right to make a courtroom policy that violates a state law... does he? And a 10-day jail sentence for violating courtroom policy seems suspect to me.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    My suspicion is that the policy was enacted to prevent gang bangers (and their girlfriends, and their babies, and whoever) from entering the courtroom flying their colors.
    That's just a hunch.
    Actually, it's a pretty common policy everywhere. It is just a courtesy to the court not to wear hats, scarfs, and other head gear.

    You would think that Muslims would have gotten the point over the years about the hajib/turban thing in Western courts and formal assemblies. It has been a constant argument through the centuries.

    I kind of like the way Vlad Tepes handled the conflict in the 14th century. When he was approached by two Turkish emissaries, he told them to remove their turbans. They told him that in their culture, they did not remove their turbans as a sign of respect. Vlad Tepes had the turbans nailed to their heads and sent them back with the message that future emissaries should be mindful of the customs of the land to which they are sent.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Actually, it's a pretty common policy everywhere. It is just a courtesy to the court not to wear hats, scarfs, and other head gear.

    If so, it must be a fairly recent policy.
    A lady would not have appeared in court without a hat before the 1960s.
    Haven't you ever watched old perry mason reruns?

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    If so, it must be a fairly recent policy.
    A lady would not have appeared in court without a hat before the 1960s.
    Haven't you ever watched old perry mason reruns?
    I can't say for sure. I do know that I would never even attempt wearing a hat in a courtroom.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I got it from Hautey's post, showing Georgia law providing an exception for religious headgear. This incident happened in Georgia. Have I misread something?
    Right you are - I'm the one who misread. I thought that the incident that spawned this thread happened in Virginia for some reason

    I don't think a judge has a right to make a courtroom policy that violates a state law... does he? And a 10-day jail sentence for violating courtroom policy seems suspect to me.
    Hatuey's article indicates that the judge in that case (or the state) was never sued. SALDEF sent a letter seeking an apology, and the judge provided it. I don't think anything official came of it.

    If there is state law on the matter, however, the judge can still make a rule violating it, said rule would just get tossed when addressed in part. Congress can make a law that says "niggers and jews can't vote" if they really want to. It's just that that law wouldn't survive a legal challenge. (for further examples see everything from the Patriot Act to the new FISA law)

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