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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I think the freedom to exercise religion overrides a silly and generally unspoken rule of respect. I wasn't even aware of the no hat/head covering rule.

    To me this just sounds like a guy on a power trip wanting to be a jerk. I'm sure that Muslim women in the past have been able to wear a hijab in court with no problem.
    Although it is a sign of respect, it is more for security reasons.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    A wig is not considered an article of clothing.
    Apples and oranges.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Valentine's husband, Omar Hall, said his wife was accompanying her nephew to a traffic citation hearing when officials stopped her at the metal detector and told her she would not be allowed in the courtroom with the head scarf, known as a hijab.
    I'm glad to see our people in Ga. are on the look out for such high level criminals. Traffic citation? Dirka! Dirka! Mohammed! Stop Sign! Boom.
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And married Orthodox Jewish women who follow Halakha, and wear wigs?
    Are they forced to remove them upon entering the courtroom?
    Should they just "stay the hell out of Rome" too, since their religion mandates that they never appear in public after their wedding day without a head covering?
    Yes, this applies to everyone including the insecure bald guy who always wears a cap in public, or the Sikh who always wears a turbin in public.
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And married Orthodox Jewish women who follow Halakha, and wear wigs?
    Are they forced to remove them upon entering the courtroom?
    Should they just "stay the hell out of Rome" too, since their religion mandates that they never appear in public after their wedding day without a head covering?
    Maybe they do have to remove them. Do you have any evidence to the contrary or are you just inventing your own hypothetical situation, assuming how it would play out, and presenting it as a valid argument?

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Although it is a sign of respect, it is more for security reasons.
    I think the respect thing is generally a crock of ****. In general I think that respect should be earned. Authority or name title doesn't make me automatically respect someone.

    I can understand the security thing, though. I think that she could have been easily checked and then been allowed to wear it.

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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm surprised by the jail term, frankly. A $50 fine and being escorted out of the courthouse would have done nicely. But again, if laws do not apply equally, then they become discriminatory. Either everyone can wear a head covering in court... or nobody can.

    I'm also reminded about the Muslim woman who sued some state... Florida, I think... because they wouldn't take her drivers license photo while she wore a burka that covered her entire face! The court upheld the state. She didn't get her license.
    I remember that, what the hell was she thinking. Whats the point of a drivers license photo if you cannot see the face?
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Because this is America not Saudi Arabia. We remove our head gear before entering a courtroom. Its a matter of respect. Respect for the judge and respect for our traditions.
    Well, it's a war of symbolism anyway you cut it. It's absurd for either party to get pissy about it, though I would in honesty be more sympathetic towards the woman as that's a matter of spirituality. Playing it out in my head, if I were the judge it would depend on the attitude of the individual.

    "Ma'am, please remove your scarf."
    "With your permission your honor, I would prefer to keep my scarf on, as my religion dictates that I do so in public places."
    "Aight, whatev."

    Seriously, not that big of a deal. The woman's not corrupting the foundation of traditional American values by having a scarf on her head. On the other hand, if she said.

    "**** you, old man, you don't know me. I'm wearing mah damn scarf."

    That's a different matter. I don't know. I guess I hate America and love terrorism, what can I say.
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    Re: Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I remember that, what the hell was she thinking. Whats the point of a drivers license photo if you cannot see the face?


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