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Ga. Judge Jails Muslim Woman Over Head Scarf

"A Muslim woman arrested for refusing to take off her head scarf at a courthouse security checkpoint"



she was not told to keep it off, they told her as they tell everyong to remove thier headware as they go through security.
 
"A Muslim woman arrested for refusing to take off her head scarf at a courthouse security checkpoint"


she was not told to keep it off, they told her as they tell everyong to remove thier headware as they go through security.

And quite rightly too, she was being ridiculous
 
And quite rightly too, she was being ridiculous

Laila, I have been reading about Somaliland. I hope your home country gets the recognition it deserves. It is proof that Islam and Democracy are indeed compatible.
 
Like most headlines on this topic, it problably doesn't reflect the actual problem at all...lets see....

Source: New York Times
Date: Dec 17, 2008


http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2008/12/17/us/AP-Muslim-Headscarf-Arrest.html?_r=2

In America it is disrespectful to wear a hat or head covering in a courtroom.

The real question posed by this story is whether American law or Islamic law must give way when the two conflict.

You know what they say " when in Rome do as the Romans do" if its against your religion then stay the hell out of Rome.

...yup, I thought so....this isn't about the scarf at all, this is about complying with security.

I care even less about Muslim suffrage as a result of this story.
 
Laila, I have been reading about Somaliland. I hope your home country gets the recognition it deserves. It is proof that Islam and Democracy are indeed compatible.

Thank you Sgt =]
We'll get recognized eventually, just a matter of 'when'.
 
It doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me for someone to have a scarf on their head in court. It's clearly important to her. I'm not sure why such a ridiculous fuss has to be made over a scarf.

The officers of the court have to make general rules to deal with the worst offenders. No doubt criminals have smuggled homemade weapons, drugs, etc, with head gear.

I'm sure this woman would reconsider her position if a passing Arian Brother used her precious scarf to choke her out.

She wasn't harmed, and franky if Allah wouldn't forgive the transgression then that's all the more reason to accept Jesus who doesn't have a dress-code.
 
She wasn't harmed, and franky if Allah wouldn't forgive the transgression then that's all the more reason to accept Jesus who doesn't have a dress-code.

The lady is foolish if she believes taking off her scarf for just security check means she'll somehow face hell or something.
How covering hair is meant to signify modesty is beyond me as well :/
 
I'm conflicted on this one. On one hand, the courts do require that people remove their "hats". On the other hand I have never heard of a court requiring that a person remove religious head gear. I have seen Jewish men wear a yamika and I have seen Sikhs wear turbins in court.
 
I file this one under "activist judge".

First, I haven't heard of a law stating you have to remove headwear when entering a courtroom.

Second, in terms of what is considered cordial, it is proper for a man to remove his hat indoors, however it has always been optional for a woman to wear hats or other head apparel.

While I agree that it is a judge's prerogative, unless it can be shown that the judge has required other women to remove their head apparel, I find it likely he was making a special case of this woman because she was Muslim. If they can't find a precedent in that courtroom, the judge should be censured at the very least.
 
I'm conflicted on this one. On one hand, the courts do require that people remove their "hats". On the other hand I have never heard of a court requiring that a person remove religious head gear. I have seen Jewish men wear a yamika and I have seen Sikhs wear turbins in court.

In this particular court? this isn't state or national law, it's this specific court's security policy to be enforced at the court's security officers' discresion
 
In this particular court? this isn't state or national law, it's this specific court's security policy to be enforced at the court's security officers' discresion

I can see a security policy wherein a person would be required to temporarily remove their headgear for security checks. But they should be allowed to put them back on after that check. If it was a case of security check, which typically occurs outside of the courtroom, I'd think that this person simply wouldn't be allowed to enter - therefore there would be no contempt charge since they were never actually in the court or in the presence of the judge.

I missed the previous post. The example of the yamika is spot on, IMO.
 
I'm conflicted on this one. On one hand, the courts do require that people remove their "hats". On the other hand I have never heard of a court requiring that a person remove religious head gear. I have seen Jewish men wear a yamika and I have seen Sikhs wear turbins in court.

Was this a policy specific to that individual judge, court house, county, or state, or are we all talking about a Federal law?
 
If you actually knew anything about Christianity you would know that that dress code comes from the church, not Jesus or God.
Nice ad hom. I probably know more about xianity than you but it doesn't matter. The Church claims to know what god wants of it's followers.
 
Shut up and obey the laws or spend you stupid time on earth changing itty-bitty, teenie-weenie laws that are there for whatever reason. Repeat;shut up.
 
The lady is foolish if she believes taking off her scarf for just security check means she'll somehow face hell or something.
How covering hair is meant to signify modesty is beyond me as well :/

Dunno; ask the Orthodox Jews. or the fundamentalist Christians, whose women have also now taken to wearing head coverings. Or extremist followers of any major religion, really.

I suspect these laws harken back to a bygone era when "modesty"- ie covering one's body from head to toe with heavy, ill-fitting garments- was so de rigeur that men found women's hair (the only part of women that they could really see; the only visible part that clearly proclaimed femininity, ie, different from men) sensual, if not frankly sexual.

Today, however, nobody normal cares about men seeing women's hair, because there are so many other, more blatantly sexual body parts routinely on display that hair arouses no particular excitement anymore.
 
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