As much as this sounds like a redneck, neocon, Republican cliche insult for liberals: Max really does hate freedom. He would be much happier with the EU telling him how to live every facet of his life.
I HAVE FREEDOM, I LOVE FREEDOM.. WHY DO YOU SAY I DONT? DID I EVER SAY I DIDNT?
Nope, but I am HAPPY about the PROTECTIOn the EU gives rather than the LACK of protection and brainwashing the US government CLEARLY gives you..
It angers me to see the way you do "intellectual debate"..
geee..
I cant explain it because its too cryptic the way Americans debate..
1 Someone says something
2 American claims what that someone has said and rephrase it to fit his own image
3 American pounds on his own wrong quotation of that someone
4 Someone proves him wrong
5 American goes into national pride mode and picks apart 1 of 50 facts
6 American then starts debating that 1 fact instead of original context
7 The Someone is dragged into another debate and another and another until the American is eventually right about something
8 The someone tries to get back to the point, the broader picture, the context of everything
9 American is tunnel visioned into what he sees as him winning the debate because he was right about something
10 American starts ranting on about loads of irrelevant things and avoids the original context and the broader debate
11 The someone desperately tries to get back on track and debate in an intellectual fashion
12 The American high on himself starts the personal attacks
13 The someone who is right about what he is saying just gives up trying to prove anything to the American because he will not listen to what he is saying.
Conclusion.. There is a major issue with how you people debate on this forum. You put misquoted opinions into people. You rephrase things to fit you vision of things, go on with personal attacks and stays away from looking at the facts. You never admit that someone else is right even when they clearly are..
It just pisses me off enormously. Dont be emotional, be intellectual!
This is not really about you RightOfCenter, because you usually don't do these things, but you doing it was the creaming of the angry cake, I'm rather disappointed with you, dont follow in the footsteps of idiots, use your brain man.