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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You keep changing how much time you put in. First it was 30 hours/week. Then it was 6 1/2 per day, and now you're up to 7 1/2. I assume that 7 1/2 doesn't count your lunch break which is probably an hour, so you're down to 6 1/2 hours. And didn't you say that you got a 10 min break/hour? In 6 hours, that an hour; so that takes you down to 5 1/2 hours per day...so what is it?
    Its 7 1/2 hours a day, 4 days a week, 10 minute breaks inside every hour. Thats 30 hours a week included 5ish hours of breaks. I don't have 1 hour lunch.. Makes my effective work time about 25 hours, and those hours are demanding and highly effective.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Thats the whole point..
    The point is to make it difficult to work the hours you want to work? All this time I thought I was missing something - that's a horrible law

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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its 7 1/2 hours a day, 4 days a week, 10 minute breaks inside every hour. Thats 30 hours a week included 5ish hours of breaks. I don't have 1 hour lunch.. Makes my effective work time about 25 hours, and those hours are demanding and highly effective.
    I'm sure it's real exhausting.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    That's not how our National Health Service is paid for...

    It's paid through taxes on cigerettes & alcohol, duties on oil and other products. We do pay contributions through National Insurance but it's pretty miniscule compared to the taxes and duties collected elsewhere. Sorry if that ruined your point.
    Your National Health care is paid mostly through general taxation not just luxuries or foreign duty taxes. That cigarettes, alcohol, clothes, tariffs, fees, heck anything short of your air is general tax and is appropriated to the National Health care to shore up shortfalls. You should know this. There have been HUGE arguements over appropriations this year alone dealing with your healthcare and its recent decline (mostly finger pointing). The "contributions" are 20% of your total individual tax and not really "contributions".

    As to this whole event, its just wrong. Silly and wrong. The government shouldn't regulate a person's work schedule. 40hr work weeks are the standard even in the US. But some people like to work more than that to buy luxuries or pay for themselves or their children to participate in expensive activities (cheerleading and its cost, football and its cost, speedboating, target shooting). There shouldn't be any sort of hoops to work extra hours if they want to do so voluntarily.

    The fact that the UK unions are all for this is mind boggling. They should be staunchly opposed to this in any way shape or form. If they suddenly ask for a pay hike with fewer hours I'm going to get a good chuckle.

    Its 7 1/2 hours a day, 4 days a week, 10 minute breaks inside every hour. Thats 30 hours a week included 5ish hours of breaks. I don't have 1 hour lunch.. Makes my effective work time about 25 hours, and those hours are demanding and highly effective.
    25hrs...wait WHAT? Are you kidding me? What work do you do thats "demanding and highly effective"? Thats like my swedish friend who lives off of 2hrs a day doing a paper route.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    What is 'slave'like about a 48 hour week? That's 8 hours over 6 days. I put in 60-70 hours easily in a week. I can work for 3 days straight and take maybe 2-3 hours naps and then get right back at it and this is something I've been doing for years now. I think the far left is too quick sometimes to label people who work a lot as 'slaves'. I don't do it cause I'm a slave. I do it because I love getting that nice paycheck in the mail. I'm not tight on money, I'm not on welfare and my credit has less spots on it then an all white carpet. Seriously if people want to work overtime just let the employers deal with it. Not the government.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The point is to make it difficult to work the hours you want to work? All this time I thought I was missing something - that's a horrible law
    Why are your circling here? The point as I have confirmed to you a dusin times now is to make it more difficult to work more than 48 hours, not overtime(which in Europe is usually between 37.5/40 hours and 48 hours).. Who WANTS to work more than that anyways? Special sectors with special needs are excluded from this activity, whole companies can apply opt outs if its reasonable and so on..
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm sure it's real exhausting.
    Its so exhausting that I have to spend hours on the beach every morning


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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What is 'slave'like about a 48 hour week? That's 8 hours over 6 days. I put in 60-70 hours easily in a week. I can work for 3 days straight and take maybe 2-3 hours naps and then get right back at it and this is something I've been doing for years now. I think the far left is too quick sometimes to label people who work a lot as 'slaves'. I don't do it cause I'm a slave. I do it because I love getting that nice paycheck in the mail. I'm not tight on money, I'm not on welfare and my credit has less spots on it then an all white carpet. Seriously if people want to work overtime just let the employers deal with it. Not the government.
    WOOT? What do you work with if you dont mind me asking..? That sounds HORRIBLE, like my worst nightmare. If I need extra cash I just do independent work/self employment stuff, I certainly have time for it.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Why are your circling here? The point as I have confirmed to you a dusin times now is to make it more difficult to work more than 48 hours, not overtime(which in Europe is usually between 37.5/40 hours and 48 hours).. Who WANTS to work more than that anyways? Special sectors with special needs are excluded from this activity, whole companies can apply opt outs if its reasonable and so on..
    Is there a problem with people getting forced to work long hours? Because otherwise anybody who is working 48 hours wants to be working 48 hours. If people are being forced to work 48+ hours that would be an extremely serious problem and this law is too soft, if anything. If not, I don't see how anybody sees any benefit from the government making it hard to work the number of hours they want to work.

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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    WOOT? What do you work with if you dont mind me asking..? That sounds HORRIBLE, like my worst nightmare. If I need extra cash I just do independent work/self employment stuff, I certainly have time for it.
    Irrelevant. I don't do it because I have to. I do it because I love working. That's the point. We can't all be lazy french men or depend on the government for assistance when we hit rock bottom.
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