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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not that working less itself is dishonest, it's what you demand for working less. You feel entitled to all the luxuries of life without believing you should put in the effort to achieve them. That's dishonest. You refuse to live by the sweat of your brow, instead believing that the collective should support everyone through the use of socialist government. You want the big house, the energy, the car, the internet, the TV, ect. but believe that it's unreasonable to have to put in work to get it. It's inconceivable in this country that laziness is rewarded. You're free to be lazy here, but you have to reap the consequences for doing so.
    What the hell are you talking about? I am happy like it is. I think its fair to have an upper limit to work, most Europeans manage fine with 40 hours of working and have the same luxuries as you.

    Why do you say I am lazy, I am not. I use say 20 hours a week to work out/exercise, making my distribution of work a bit different than yours.

    Do you not think the property market is quite bad though? Bubbled prices because of enormous loans that people take, forcing them to work many decades to pay it down, working like slaves..?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And of course I have schedules...it's called being productive!
    You said you used a schedule to manage your private time, sorry to say it but thats quite sad.
    I respect you for liking your work so much, but its maybe a bit too much since you have to managed the private life with schedules?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Sure, if I could sleep 10 hours a day, do 5 hours worth of "work" and f off for the other 9 hours, I wouldn't have to make a plan. But I wouldn't accomplish anything either; and there's nothing good about being a lazy jerk who never accomplishes anything.
    So, you are saying its not possible to accomplish something in less time? Its called effectiveness.. Ask the French, they only work 35 hours a week and have a comparable economy to your, but per hour worked they are the most effective of any western country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Finishing is fun, it's something to take pride in. Putting your all into a project and coming out on the other side with a finished product...there's nothing like it.
    I completely agree with this, I am a semi-professional entrepreneur also, hoping that I can move onto this area full time eventually.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If everyone where like you, you understand that the human race would not have progressed as far as it has, right?
    What are you actually saying here? I think you are prejudice and judging me for having more comfortable hours than you..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If people only put in 5 hours of half assed work,
    Stop right there.... What the heck are you assuming here? I put in 6 1/2 hours of extreme work 4 days a week. I deserve 1 the one hour break I have every day and the 3 day weekend. I often take vacation for months, I enjoy that as well, what about you, you never have any vacation either then I guess..?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Your life style is completely counter to the whole of human evolution. You waste that brain nature designed, you waste the potential that humans have. Waste of space is what I'd call it.
    What the hell is wrong with you? I work and I take care of my body also, I eat healthy and I study every single day.. What the heck is counter to human evolution of that? Id say its one step further from just working, having sex and sleeping.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You should be damned well thankful that there are others the opposite of you that have made the vaccines and electronics and advancements in all aspects of science which has further driven technology to lead to a better, more comfortable life style for you. Thank your lucky stars we ain't all so lazy. You couldn't be as lazy as you are currently without us industrious folk.
    Most likely I will accomplish A LOT more than you with a LOT less work.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    What the hell are you talking about? I am happy like it is. I think its fair to have an upper limit to work, most Europeans manage fine with 40 hours of working and have the same luxuries as you.
    Except it isn't an upper limit to work, it's a system that makes it difficult for a person who wants to work overtime to work overtime. You still haven't shown that to be positive in the slightest

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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Except it isn't an upper limit to work, it's a system that makes it difficult for a person who wants to work overtime to work overtime. You still haven't shown that to be positive in the slightest
    You can still work 8 hours of overtime easily if you have a 40 hour contract, but anything more than that is heavily regulated like it ought to be.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    You can still work 8 hours of overtime easily if you have a 40 hour contract, but anything more than that is heavily regulated like it ought to be.
    Why should it be regulated? Are unions in Europe so weak or so stupid that they can't negotiate their own contracts and need government to do it for them?
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    You can still work 8 hours of overtime easily if you have a 40 hour contract, but anything more than that is heavily regulated like it ought to be.
    Why should it be if a person wishes to work more than 48 hours a week? Once again - what does this do besides make it difficult for somebody who voluntarily wants to work 48+ hours a week to do so?

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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Most likely I will accomplish A LOT more than you with a LOT less work.
    I dare you to try to do the job of a physicist in 5 hours a day and 3 days off a week.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Why should it be regulated? Are unions in Europe so weak or so stupid that they can't negotiate their own contracts and need government to do it for them?
    I think Unions have a weaker position in Europe than it does in America.. I didn't think Unions were so strong in America, and they clearly aren't with the times you put into work over there.
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Why should it be if a person wishes to work more than 48 hours a week? Once again - what does this do besides make it difficult for somebody who voluntarily wants to work 48+ hours a week to do so?
    Thats the whole point..
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I dare you to try to do the job of a physicist in 5 hours a day and 3 days off a week.
    I am not a physicist... And I work 7 1/2 hour shifts..
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    Re: UK work time opt-out under threat

    You keep changing how much time you put in. First it was 30 hours/week. Then it was 6 1/2 per day, and now you're up to 7 1/2. I assume that 7 1/2 doesn't count your lunch break which is probably an hour, so you're down to 6 1/2 hours. And didn't you say that you got a 10 min break/hour? In 6 hours, that an hour; so that takes you down to 5 1/2 hours per day...so what is it?
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