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EU voting on working week opt-out

Maximus Zeebra said:
What the heck.. How is it good to work more than you sleep? How is it advantageous to work more than you have free time to do other things(among them family)?
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A person only needs 8 hours of sleep a night. If they want to spend more time doing other things they can find another job.

More than 48 hours is close to slavery..
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Except for the fact that you're getting paid and can leave if you want to and don't get whipped...yeah...definitely close to slavery.
 
Ikari said:
Jesus. You want to be paid like a high priced lawyer with the work of a part-time fry cook. i'm starting to see the problem.
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I get paid higher than average(monthly and annual) wages with those hours.
 
Ikari said:
You get less done.
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But you get more done in YOUR life.. Like family and time for excersise, time for making good dinners instead of buying fastfood, time to work on your house, time to study, time to do other things than work, more time to sleep.
 
Kernel Sanders said:
Are you unemployed? If not you have your answer.
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Nope I am not. Happy about working 4 days a week/30 hours.. I wouldnt have more working hours for anything in the world. My weekend is Friday, Saturday AND Sunday.. Gives me a lot more time to LIVE my own life rather than serve my company.
 
RightOfCenter said:
A person only needs 8 hours of sleep a night. If they want to spend more time doing other things they can find another job..
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Do you really get 8 hours of sleep if you work 48 hours a week?


RightOfCenter said:
Except for the fact that you're getting paid and can leave if you want to and don't get whipped...yeah...definitely close to slavery.
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What about LIVING a life?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Nope I am not. Happy about working 4 days a week/30 hours.. I wouldnt have more working hours for anything in the world. My weekend is Friday, Saturday AND Sunday.. Gives me a lot more time to LIVE my own life rather than serve my company.
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So why not quit altogether? Then you would certainly work less, and in your own words

Maximus Zeebra said:
How is it not better to work less than more?
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Maximus Zeebra said:
But you get more done in YOUR life.. Like family and time for excersise, time for making good dinners instead of buying fastfood, time to work on your house, time to study, time to do other things than work, more time to sleep.
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That's complete and utter BS. I put in at least 11 hours a day in the lab, and all that in your list is achievable. My adviser puts in more than that, has 3 kids, a house that he puts time in on, doesn't eat fast food much (except for lunch maybe if he doesn't bring it), etc. The only thing you've proven is that you can't add up time and plan out a week. Bitch about needing time for other things, but it's probably because you end up wasting a good 6 hours each day doing nothing, and then you think you deserve to be paid more. Man lives by the sweat of his brow, learn to put in an honest day's work.

You're society has problems if you guys can't put in the work to keep things together.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Do you really get 8 hours of sleep if you work 48 hours a week?
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I actually work 60 hours a week when not going to school. And yes I do. I also have the weekends to myself.




What about LIVING a life?
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I have the time off I need to enjoy the things I enjoy doing.
 
Ikari said:
That's complete and utter BS. I put in at least 11 hours a day in the lab, and all that in your list is achievable. My adviser puts in more than that, has 3 kids, a house that he puts time in on, doesn't eat fast food much (except for lunch maybe if he doesn't bring it), etc. The only thing you've proven is that you can't add up time and plan out a week. Bitch about needing time for other things, but it's probably because you end up wasting a good 6 hours each day doing nothing, and then you think you deserve to be paid more. Man lives by the sweat of his brow, learn to put in an honest day's work.

You're society has problems if you guys can't put in the work to keep things together.
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What do you do, if you don't mind me asking?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Do you really get 8 hours of sleep if you work 48 hours a week?




What about LIVING a life?
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What if, by god, this is how I want to live my life?

Who is it to tell me whats important in my own life ?


Maybe I enjoy my work and would rather consume my excess free time with it, than other things. Maybe I'm a businessman who needs to put in those extra hours.

Maybe I'm a workaholic and its what I do.

And maybe, just maybe, your socialist mentality that you can regulate how long I work so you don't get out classed and replaced by someone who will do more for the same earnings is ever so wrong.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Those who want to can under special arrangements.. Those who need to is the problem, since those are increasigly becoming a majority in the UK for example.. In places like the UK the US, Norway and other countries people need to work more than 44 hours to survive, thats a shame when the majority in France manages fine on 35 hours.
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Well if you belive that people in the UK need to work more then 44 hours a week then surely stopping them from doing so isnt going to help the situation.
 
As I commented in the other thread on this same topic, such a law would cause utter chaos here during natural emergencies such as severe storms, when utility workers, public works, medical, fire and law enforcement work around the clock to restore services and save lives.

A 30-hour workweek? That's considered part-time in the USA. You'd be hard pressed even to get benefits! :)
 
Ikari said:
That's complete and utter BS. I put in at least 11 hours a day in the lab, and all that in your list is achievable. My adviser puts in more than that, has 3 kids, a house that he puts time in on, doesn't eat fast food much (except for lunch maybe if he doesn't bring it), etc. The only thing you've proven is that you can't add up time and plan out a week. Bitch about needing time for other things, but it's probably because you end up wasting a good 6 hours each day doing nothing, and then you think you deserve to be paid more. Man lives by the sweat of his brow, learn to put in an honest day's work.

You're society has problems if you guys can't put in the work to keep things together.
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Why should we work 66 hours a week when we can work 35, 37 or 40 hours a week and do the same work?

I work 30, I am damn happy about that. LOTS of time to do more important things than working.
 
DiAnna said:
As I commented in the other thread on this same topic, such a law would cause utter chaos here during natural emergencies such as severe storms, when utility workers, public works, medical, fire and law enforcement work around the clock to restore services and save lives.

A 30-hour workweek? That's considered part-time in the USA. You'd be hard pressed even to get benefits! :)
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Thats your problem.. The average European works around 40 hours a week. It is MY week that is 30 hours.

Society functions here with less work.
 
winston53660 said:
Like posting on message boards:mrgreen:
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Hehe, not really.. Like working out, taking time for family, making and eating good food, study, read the bible, try to be a good person, relax, sleep, debate and so on.. Its nice to be able to live a life.. I remember the huge difference it was when I worked 40 hours. I cant imagine 50 hours being nothing but pain and terror.

You Americans who appreciate freedoms, certainly do not appreciate having a free life, but prefer being "company men/women"..

I wouldn't work more except when I am an entrepreneur working for myself, then I can work high and irregular hours without minding, but for a company, no way..
 
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Kernel Sanders said:
So you see how working less is not always better?
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I still make enough money. The only situation I would be happy to work more is the situations where I am an entrepreneur working for myself, or if I was helping other people in need(directly not indirectly)..

I remember some years ago, I worked 40 hours a week in IT making something like 2500€ per month, it sucked big time even when I had 40 days of vacation and 15+ holidays all paid. The days were just too hard and I was exhausted when I was finished, it felt like I was only working and sleeping.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I still make enough money. The only situation I would be happy to work more is the situations where I am an entrepreneur working for myself, or if I was helping other people in need(directly not indirectly)..

I remember some years ago, I worked 40 hours a week in IT making something like 2500€ per month, it sucked big time even when I had 40 days of vacation and 15+ holidays all paid. The days were just too hard and I was exhausted when I was finished, it felt like I was only working and sleeping.
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Poor dear, can't handle a 40-hour week.
What a joke.
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Maximus Zeebra said:
I still make enough money. The only situation I would be happy to work more is the situations where I am an entrepreneur working for myself, or if I was helping other people in need(directly not indirectly)..

I remember some years ago, I worked 40 hours a week in IT making something like 2500€ per month, it sucked big time even when I had 40 days of vacation and 15+ holidays all paid. The days were just too hard and I was exhausted when I was finished, it felt like I was only working and sleeping.
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40 hours a week sat in a comfortable chair,? :shock:
 
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