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Fascism is best recognized as a police state, as such the US is far more fascist than Europe.

That's not what fascism is. And I am wondering how you can characterize the US as a police state in the first place??

Also the corporations have strong "ball grip" on the US government, another trait, corporate governance.

No, not a trait of facism.

I like state protection and socialism.. I feel good knowing that my taxes goes towards helping the weak rather than fighting wars.

Ah yes, there's the liberal fascism, errr, progressivism I expected from you. :roll:
 
Whats slavery about having the state pay for nanny services, kindergarten, house maid for people with children and so on?

The state doesn't pay for it.

Get it, yet?

Whats slavery about protecting the weak? Thats rather anti-slavery unlike not protecting the weak like is the case in the US.

Uh, it requires that my labor be confiscated from me to pay the State to provide something to someone else.

Get it, yet?
 
Whats slavery about having the state pay for nanny services, kindergarten, house maid for people with children and so on?
The state doesnt pay for it -- the people of the state do.
Those people are FORCED to do so -- they are FORCED to provide the means for others to exercise their rights.
Thus, slavery.

Socialism is the antithesis of liberty.
 
That's not what fascism is. And I am wondering how you can characterize the US as a police state in the first place??



No, not a trait of facism.



Ah yes, there's the liberal fascism, errr, progressivism I expected from you. :roll:
Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Fascism is an authoritarian or totalitarian nationalist ideology.[1][2] It is primarily concerned with solving the perceived problems of national decline or decadence, by achieving a millenarian national rebirth, exalting the nation or race above all else, and promoting cults of unity, strength and purity.[3][4][5][6][7] Fascists typically seek to form a mass movement of militants who are willing to engage in violence against their perceived enemies."

This description ONLY fits the US, its fits it perfect..
 
Ah yes, there's the liberal fascism, errr, progressivism I expected from you. :roll:

Whats actually wrong with you? If I was thinking in two ways one of them would be that you are just saying all your silly things ONLY to troll me and annoy me. Your version of reality is just so far from where it ought to be, its sickening actually.
 
Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Fascism is an authoritarian or totalitarian nationalist ideology.[1][2] It is primarily concerned with solving the perceived problems of national decline or decadence, by achieving a millenarian national rebirth, exalting the nation or race above all else, and promoting cults of unity, strength and purity.[3][4][5][6][7] Fascists typically seek to form a mass movement of militants who are willing to engage in violence against their perceived enemies."

This description ONLY fits the US, its fits it perfect..

No it does not. It is not even close.

We are a Representative Republic. We are not a "Totalitarian or Nationalist ideology" in any way shape or form.

Please point out with hard evidence how your statement is even remotely true?
 
The state doesn't pay for it.

Get it, yet?

Yes it does, in France it does.. GET IT?


Uh, it requires that my labor be confiscated from me to pay the State to provide something to someone else.

Get it, yet?

Are you actually just saying all these ridiculous things to troll around or are they your actual opinion?
 
No it does not. It is not even close.

We are a Representative Republic. We are not a "Totalitarian or Nationalist ideology" in any way shape or form.

Please point out with hard evidence how your statement is even remotely true?

You never EVER pointed out any of your absurdities with ANY facts what so ever.. Why should I? Actually I feel better now that I have fallen to your level....

Yes, the US is totalitarian and massively nationalistic.
 
You never EVER pointed out any of your absurdities with ANY facts what so ever.. Why should I? Actually I feel better now that I have fallen to your level....

Yes, the US is totalitarian and massively nationalistic.

Please point out these "absurdities" I never backed up with any facts? I know you can't and that is yet another lie from you.

It does not make the fact that you have said the "Nazi" thing more than one time and have yet to back it up at all.
 
Personally I am of the attitude, if you want to work yourself to death then fine by me.

However I am all for having an upper limit on what companies can "force" employees to work, since the goal of the legislation is to protect the weak party, aka the employees, from being exploited by management. We have seen it before and still see it world wide, so why do some people live in a box thinking that such exploitation wont happen in the 21st century...

Saying that, if the employee (without being threatened with being fired of course) agrees on his or her own accord to work more than the limit, fine by me.. that is a personal freedom and choice... but of course said employee should be compensated for the extra work. If the employees say no.. guess what.. HIRE some more! if you as a company need workers to work extra hours.

As for the UK not wanting to "play ball".. hardly a shocker. The country that brought us child slave labour in Victorian times has been fighting any and all measures to improve the working place for decades.


Honestly mate. As much as I feel your ideals, this does nto adress the issue.
The issue is that quite often the worker is more dependant on his kob than the job is on the worker, and that weak and vulnerable workers can be PREASURED into 'voluntaraly' working excessive hours. This is why we have things like minimum wages, state set overtime provissions, and employment laws.

I mean, I myself have been put in a situation where I was told "you can either work 55 hours or 25 this week. With little recourse (he couldnt fire me, but he could **** my roster untill I left.

I manned up and did the 55. But it was the week of christmass, and I resented the crap out of it. Only reason I did it. I knew I needed the job more than he needed me (specifically) to do it. And altho ive got an education since, thas the reality for unskilled labor. And they need protection
 
Thank you so much but your compliments aren't necessary, I already know I am best. :mrgreen:

You left this out...

"You exaggerate, lie and make stereo typical blanket statements. - Blackdog

I agree you are the best at those things. Nothing to be proud of, that is for certain.

You have still not addressed this...

"Please point out these "absurdities" I never backed up with any facts? I know you can't and that is yet another lie from you.

It does not make the fact that you have said the "Nazi" thing more than one time and have yet to back it up at all.


So here is yoru chance; put up or shut up.
 
I agree you are the best at those things.

Thank you.. I knew that I am best at debating here in this thread certainly, no need to tell me that. Also I appreciate your support on me being the best at this forum at viewing everything from different perspectives and really get the broader picture of things. With all the trolling by some group of insane republicans on this forum my steel strong integrity almost got a scratch, but its nice to get your support, thank you :mrgreen:
 
"You exaggerate, lie and make stereo typical blanket statements. - Blackdog

I agree you are the best at those things. Nothing to be proud of, that is for certain.

You have still not addressed this...

"Please point out these "absurdities" I never backed up with any facts? I know you can't and that is yet another lie from you.

It does not make the fact that you have said the "Nazi" thing more than one time and have yet to back it up at all.
"

So here is yoru chance; put up or shut up.
 
"You exaggerate, lie and make stereo typical blanket statements. - Blackdog

I agree you are the best at those things. Nothing to be proud of, that is for certain.

You have still not addressed this...

"Please point out these "absurdities" I never backed up with any facts? I know you can't and that is yet another lie from you.

It does not make the fact that you have said the "Nazi" thing more than one time and have yet to back it up at all.
"

So here is yoru chance; put up or shut up.



What are you talking about? This is just absurd now..
 
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