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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    When you do that, you are insulting a very integral part of what makes up a person of faith. Their faith is as much a part of them as is their brown or blonde hair or their eye color or their accent.

    The insensitiviy of the faithless never ceases to amaze me.

    I don't cry a river when some uneducated Christian springs into a thread, says evolution never happened, the Bible is 100% historically accurate and that I need to repent for my sins. I just laugh.
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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Christians try to convert people all the time. Why is it bad for atheists too?

    Christians try to convert people by telling them they are sinners and will go to hell if they don't accept Jesus Christ into their lives. Atheists try to convert people by telling them God is a fairy tale and not real.

    Both groups make an assumption they cannot prove with facts.
    Surely athiests shouldn't care about converting people?

    It all strikes me as very Dawkins-esque, which should be enough to put anyone off.
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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I don't cry a river when some uneducated Christian springs into a thread, says evolution never happened, the Bible is 100% historically accurate and that I need to repent for my sins. I just laugh.
    Attitudes like this make me pine away for the days when the rack and the iron maiden were used to put an end to such things...

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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Surely athiests shouldn't care about converting people?
    Why not? They maybe want to free people from what they see as a "delusional" state of being.

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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why not? They maybe want to free people from what they see as a "delusional" state of being.
    Why? What does it bring them? Ignoring the social and individual place of the institution of religion in human societies that it has basically always had.
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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Attitudes like this make me pine away for the days when the rack and the iron maiden were used to put an end to such things...
    It's just a matter of how one deals with adversity. You can let it affect you and overtake you, or you can rise above it.
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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Why? What does it bring them? Ignoring the social and individual place of the institution of religion in human societies that it has basically always had.
    Christians like to make laws based on what their religion allows. When they are converted away from that, the laws can be changed or not made.

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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Christians like to make laws based on what their religion allows. When they are converted away from that, the laws can be changed or not made.
    Everyone likes to make laws or preserve laws according to their "metaprinciples", those ethical, spiritual and metaphysical principles which make up their basic belief structure.
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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Everyone likes to make laws or preserve laws according to their "metaprinciples", those ethical, spiritual and metaphysical principles which make up their basic belief structure.
    I know, but I was giving you an example is all why an atheist would want to convert.

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    Re: Priest: Playboy cover resembling Mary 'desperate,' 'blasphemous'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I know, but I was giving you an example is all why an atheist would want to convert.
    Indeed I understand and I can see your point.

    Personally I think In general modern Western athiesm's "metaprinciples" seem to be very much the same as those of modern liberalism and they seem to reinforce each other.

    As a resolute enemy of a lot of what makes up modern liberalism and social democracy I do not welcome the "metaprinciples" of modern western athiesm either.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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