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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDavies View Post
    You don't know what socialism is.
    Oh my. Another one like the other ones.

    Our government spends $3 trillion dollars a year.
    3,000,000,000,000.

    I wouldn't mind if all of it was for military, police, border control, prisons, intel services.

    It's not, and not by a long shot.

    For 2009, the base budget rose to US$515.4 billion, with a total of US$651.2 billion when emergency discretionary spending and supplemental spending are included.
    Military budget of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The rest is largely poured down the crapper for socialist projects.
    Sociali$m.

    PS. J'us aye non.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Oh my. Another one like the other ones.

    Our government spends $3 trillion dollars a year.
    3,000,000,000,000.

    I wouldn't mind if all of it was for military, police, border control, prisons, intel services.

    It's not, and not by a long shot.


    Military budget of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The rest is largely poured down the crapper for socialist projects.
    Sociali$m.

    PS. J'us aye non.
    Capitalism is an economic system in which land, capital goods, and other resources, are owned, operated and traded by private individuals or corporations for the purpose of profit. In a capitalist system, private control of these productive enterprises is protected by the rule of law. A capitalist legal system protects the exchange and distribution of capital between legal or private persons, which is driven by competition and profit-maximization,[1][2] and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods, commodities and services are determined by private decision in a market economy[3] rather than through central economic planning by the state. Human labor power is for sale in the market as one of the many commodities.[1]
    Capitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You live in a country with a mostly capitalist, but mixed economy.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Oh my. Another one like the other ones.

    Our government spends $3 trillion dollars a year.
    3,000,000,000,000.

    I wouldn't mind if all of it was for military, police, border control, prisons, intel services.

    It's not, and not by a long shot.
    The military, police, border control, prisons and intel serves are all examples of socialism. Services and goods that all benefit by, paid for by citizen taxation and that are government controlled.

    The rest is largely poured down the crapper for socialist projects.
    Sociali$m.

    PS. J'us aye non.
    That's debatable. Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are not cut and dry examples of socialism as virtually everyone pays into them. To some degree it is return of money. That's not socialism.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, TD. It is not only John McCain who disagrees with you. Newt Gingrich disagrees with you too. And I don't think for a minute that you would dare to call Professor Gingrich naive. And as for John McCain, what you call tripe is what is known as honesty. We need more of it. Hell, if McCain had been this candid during the election season, he probably would have won.
    McCain had no better chance of getting elected by trying to be kindler and gentler than he did trying to sound like Obama light. Newt's views on this issue are equally naive.

    If you think that Conservatism is losing because they are not kinder and gentler, there is a bridge in Arizona I would like to sell you.

    Liberalism is not on the rise in the United States. Conservatism is not dead either. This nation swings from one to the other every decade or so and Americans, with the memory of a lemming, need these constant reminders of why they do not want another Jimmy Carter Presidency.

    My belief is that when Obama is done messing EVERYTHING up even more, Americans will be wondering what the hell they were thinking electing someone who is this naive and inexperienced.

    Conservatives cannot WIN being Democrat light any more than Democrats can win being Liberal light. Americans either subconsciously or knowingly do not think that they need a Government that actually gets things done. Our forefathers did not design the separation of powers and our Government to get things done; it was designed for the OPPOSITE result, to ensure they could not EASILY get things done and had sufficient deliberation and debate before messing things up.

    Government is best when it doesn't get a LOT done. It's when Government DOES things we get into trouble. These comments are specifically related to private property rights and the economy, not the protection of the nation of enforcement of its laws.

    Do you honestly think Democrats politically fight kindler and gentler? They are the worst when it comes to denigrating and lying about their opponents; spare me your yet young and naÔve positions. You have a lot longer to live in order to dispel some of your misconceptions about the REAL world.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Gault View Post
    Rush Much?
    Who can argue with such a convenient and trite excuse for an argument?

    Carry on.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And Reagan was a massive fiscal liberal who promoted dictatorships around the world as well as state sponsored terrorism
    The people promoting Communist Dictatorships throughout the world during Reaganís Presidency would be the Soviet Union. But then, reality and facts have never been your forte' so I can understand why you would make such a preposterous statement.

    Carry on.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    You live in a country with a mostly capitalist, but mixed economy.
    We live in a country that theives trillions from the taxpayer annually to redistribute through socialist schemes.

    We have socialist programs and government intervention into the free market up to the ying yang.

    Your private property isn't yours any longer. Your property is regulated to the point of silliness.

    You work for the government for 4-months of every year.

    Graduated taxation is right out of the Communist manifesto.

    This is not the country The Founding Fathers created.

    And now the Obamatrons want to take another 7% of the economy and put it under government "management".

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The people promoting Communist Dictatorships throughout the world during Reaganís Presidency would be the Soviet Union.
    Where did I say Reagan supported that or are you making up **** as usual to compensate for poor skills?

    But then, reality and facts have never been your forte' so I can understand why you would make such a preposterous statement.

    Carry on.
    Perhaps you should enroll in a basic reading comprehension course at your local community college. Please reread what I wrote for comprehension instead of making up whatever you want.
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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The military, police, border control, prisons and intel serves are all examples of socialism. Services and goods that all benefit by, paid for by citizen taxation and that are government controlled.
    That is not socialism. It is the basis for national security and an orderly society, otherwise we would have anarchy.

    I'm a conservative, not an anarchist. Society requires some laws in order to protect the public.

    It would be nice to live in a utopia where all people made moral decisions all the time. We don't.
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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    That is not socialism. It is the basis for national security and an orderly society, otherwise we would have anarchy.
    How are they not socialism? They are a communal good/service owned and provided by the government which provides a benefit for all paid for by public taxation. How is that not Socialism?
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