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McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

MrVicchio said:
When a liberal says the GOP should listen... that's most of what's wrong with the GOP right now, listening to moderates and liberals.
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You are absolutely right. The GOP should definitely move further to the right-wing and embrace the agenda of the evangelicals and pentacostals. The GOP would do well for themselves if they abandoned any hope of appealing to moderates and independents and refocus their efforts in rallying the right-wing base.
 
I saw McCain twice contradict and audience member(s) when they referred to Obama in less than a flattering manner and he was very animate in his rebuttal to th0se audience members. It gave me a good feeling to see this man stand up for what he believed was right. He is a fine and descent man.
 
1069 said:
No, it isn't.
McCain couldn't have won, no matter what he did.
He simply wasn't the right candidate.
He did the very best he could.
He couldn't have done any better than he did.
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When the focus was on foreign policy in August with the Russian invasion of Georgia, he hit his peak and even took a brief lead. However, when the economy tanked in September, his goose was cooked.

I am sick and tired of the attacks on Obama. I didn't support him, but I respect him and am willing to give him a chance. Count me in as part of the loyal opposition. I am loyal to the ideals of the United States of America and support the democratic process. However, when I think Obama is wrong, I will RESPECTFULLY criticize him for it.
 
Middleground said:
I wasn't too keen on some of his policies, but John McCain is a good and decent man. I have always thought that.
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Like Bush, McCain was being used by "The Dark Side". Bush is a very decent person too. As Governor of Texas, he was liked and respected by Republicans and Democrats alike. Then he was lured away from being who he was by people who had an agenda, along with a plan to implement that agenda at any and all cost to this country. Have you taken a good look at Bush recently? He is back to his old self too. Like him or not, you have to agree that he really is a very decent guy when he is himself. Welcome back, George, and God bless you.
 
danarhea said:
Like Bush, McCain was being used by "The Dark Side". Bush is a very decent person too. As Governor of Texas, he was liked and respected by Republicans and Democrats alike. Then he was lured away from being who he was by people who had an agenda, along with a plan to implement that agenda at any and all cost to this country. Have you taken a good look at Bush recently? He is back to his old self too. Like him or not, you have to agree that he really is a very decent guy when he is himself. Welcome back, George, and God bless you.
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He is a member at the church I grew up in. And in person not as a politician he seems like a likable guy. The type that is fun at a party.
 
winston53660 said:
He is a member at the church I grew up in. And in person not as a politician he seems like a likable guy. The type that is fun at a party.
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I'd rather drink a beer with Bush than drink a latte with Obama. :mrgreen:
 
MC.no.spin said:
McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama - Mike Allen - Politico.com


This is the John McCain that non-partisans can all appreciate. Welcome back, John.
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No, that is John McCain tossing democrat salad like he usually does. He probably wants Obama to appoint him to some position. He probably wonders why he lost and why real conservatives would rather vote for Barr or some other candidate instead of voting for McCain.

I think the trying to link Obama with a alleged corrupt governor is nonsense. Obama has no say in who his replacement is and if he really wanted to appoint someone he liked to a position I am sure he has plenty of positions to fill seeing how I do not think he is going to keep any of Bush's people.
 
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MC.no.spin said:
McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama - Mike Allen - Politico.com


This is the John McCain that non-partisans can all appreciate. Welcome back, John.
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His joining with Democrats against Republicans also is why he had no chance to win. When he sided with Democrats on the "bailout" against the Republicans in Congress, his chance to win evaporated. But for Palin, Obama would have won by a truly massive landslide. Hopefully, Republicans will nominate a Republican to be their presidential candidate in 2012.
 
danarhea said:
Like Bush, McCain was being used by "The Dark Side". Bush is a very decent person too. As Governor of Texas, he was liked and respected by Republicans and Democrats alike. Then he was lured away from being who he was by people who had an agenda, along with a plan to implement that agenda at any and all cost to this country. Have you taken a good look at Bush recently? He is back to his old self too. Like him or not, you have to agree that he really is a very decent guy when he is himself. Welcome back, George, and God bless you.
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Then the real question must be asked; what is "the dark side"; and why are republican's so easily swayed by "the dark side"?
 
DarkWizard12 said:
I would rather the GOP die as a party of Conservativism, than to live as a plagued party riddled with moderates and liberals. Liberals belong in the democrat party, not the republican party by any means.
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Then I take it you are massively pissed off a the GOP now as it's full of big government, big debt, big deficit, big intervention liberals?
 
obvious Child said:
Then I take it you are massively pissed off a the GOP now as it's full of big government, big debt, big deficit, big intervention liberals?
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What conservative WOULDN'T be ticked off with the GOP hijacked by big spenders, but many are just as ticked off that it has also been hijacked by the evangelicals.
 
MC.no.spin said:
McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama - Mike Allen - Politico.com


This is the John McCain that non-partisans can all appreciate. Welcome back, John.
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When I read tripe like this coming from "pacifist" politicians who think they can get anything done by being nice, it makes me glad that this moron lost the election. He didn't deserve it, didn't fight for it and certainly sounded more like Obama light than anything remotely considered Conservative.

I do have to laugh at your "non-partisan" comment though. It is certainly amusing and naive to think that if only we had nothing but non-partisans, things would get done better and more efficiently.

In order for someone to have such naïve views, one has to presume that people do not have significant differences about how they think Government should work and what Governments intended role is. :rofl
 
DarkWizard12 said:
John McCain is good, decent, and appreciated by everyone, as long as he loses the election.

This is exactly why John McSame will lose his senate seat in Arizona, and good f***ing riddance.
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Hitting the nail right on the proverbial head. :2wave:
 
1069 said:
I think, if I understand this correctly, the situation right now is that the pendulum has swung left, and a slim majority are now on the liberal side of the fence, rather than the conservative side.
That is not to say that the far Left is appealing to most Americans.
Most Americans on both side of the fence are moderates, and are put off by radical extremists of any stripe.

But now the conservatives are saying, "Well, McCain lost the election because he was too centrist and had liberal leanings. We need to get back to our hardcore, fundamentalist conservative roots. Our whole problem is that we've capitulated too much, we've given in to the moderates and centrists. Screw that; we're going back to fundamentalist Right-wing Extremism. Then we'll win back America, by golly."

See, I don't really think that plan is going to work.
But, I mean, I hope they don't let my opinion stop them. :cool:
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No one is saying "We need to get back to our hardcore, fundamentalist conservative roots".

That is the words of a Liberal and the mainstream drive-by media.

McCain's version of Conservatism is a Washington insider view of the word. His views were not that much more distinguishable from Obama's. The amusing thing about Obama's campaign is he was sounding just like a Conservative with his populist message about giving 97% of Americans, which is a lie, tax deductions.

The issue for the Republican Party is to get back on message; limited Government, lower taxes and fiscal responsibility with a strong military for defense and protecting our allies.

America is not lurching to Socialism. Americans, in their lemming like way as predicted by Osama Bin Laden, have no stomach for war and commitment. This is why any new platform for the Republicans must also include never committing forces for anyone unless it is a direct threat to American lives.

By the way, this was one of your best posts and very different from stuff I have seen from the past; kudos.
 
disneydude said:
You are absolutely right. The GOP should definitely move further to the right-wing and embrace the agenda of the evangelicals and pentacostals. The GOP would do well for themselves if they abandoned any hope of appealing to moderates and independents and refocus their efforts in rallying the right-wing base.
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And you think that your positions and those of Obama are those of a moderate? :shock:
 
danarhea said:
Like Bush, McCain was being used by "The Dark Side". Bush is a very decent person too. As Governor of Texas, he was liked and respected by Republicans and Democrats alike. Then he was lured away from being who he was by people who had an agenda, along with a plan to implement that agenda at any and all cost to this country. Have you taken a good look at Bush recently? He is back to his old self too. Like him or not, you have to agree that he really is a very decent guy when he is himself. Welcome back, George, and God bless you.
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He always was the same person; your refusal to comprehend that may be colored by the events that led to our eventual and LEGAL invasion of Iraq after 9-11.

If there had never been a 9-11, an attack that killed more Americans than the attack on Pearl Harbor, things would be very different.

What has been illustrated over the last 8 years is that Americans, as Osama had stated, do not have the character, the will or the stomach to make the sacrifices needed to promote Democracy, put down terrorism and fight the enemies of freedom.
 
obvious Child said:
That depends on what we call a Conservative.
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I am a conservative on most issues (though a little more centrist on environmental issues) but the bigotry of many evangelicals forced me to leave the Republican party as they took over the party.
 
ludahai said:
I am a conservative on most issues (though a little more centrist on environmental issues) but the bigotry of many evangelicals forced me to leave the Republican party as they took over the party.
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As an independent(though, a conservative one), will say there is some "bigotry" on the evangilical-side of the fence. It must be noted that, for the most part, bigotry in America is pretty much slim, but there still is a significant portion of it and most of it in the hands of those like Pat Robertson, fallwell(deceased), and those typical "biblethumpers" who are a very small, but vocal minority of the "evangilical" wing.
 
Truth Detector said:
When I read tripe like this coming from "pacifist" politicians who think they can get anything done by being nice, it makes me glad that this moron lost the election. He didn't deserve it, didn't fight for it and certainly sounded more like Obama light than anything remotely considered Conservative.

I do have to laugh at your "non-partisan" comment though. It is certainly amusing and naive to think that if only we had nothing but non-partisans, things would get done better and more efficiently.

In order for someone to have such naïve views, one has to presume that people do not have significant differences about how they think Government should work and what Governments intended role is. :rofl
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You know, TD. It is not only John McCain who disagrees with you. Newt Gingrich disagrees with you too. And I don't think for a minute that you would dare to call Professor Gingrich naive. And as for John McCain, what you call tripe is what is known as honesty. We need more of it. Hell, if McCain had been this candid during the election season, he probably would have won.
 
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