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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And this is why McCain lost...
    No, it isn't.
    McCain couldn't have won, no matter what he did.
    He simply wasn't the right candidate.
    He did the very best he could.
    He couldn't have done any better than he did.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    I think much of it had to do with that scarlet letter "R" beside his name.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No his acting like a bitter and rabid partisan ass along with Palin is what made him lose.

    His comments today ring true and the GOP should listen.
    When a liberal says the GOP should listen... that's most of what's wrong with the GOP right now, listening to moderates and liberals.
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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    When a liberal says the GOP should listen... that's most of what's wrong with the GOP right now, listening to moderates and liberals.
    Perhaps that's true.

    But the hard part is going to be wording that, to make it have some sort of a poetic ring, when it is etched into the GOP's tombstone.

    That's the damned'est thing about a democracy. When the rest of the marching band decides Johnny is out of step, they make him sit in the stands. Even when he KNOWS that it was the band out of step and not him.
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    I think, if I understand this correctly, the situation right now is that the pendulum has swung left, and a slim majority are now on the liberal side of the fence, rather than the conservative side.
    That is not to say that the far Left is appealing to most Americans.
    Most Americans on both side of the fence are moderates, and are put off by radical extremists of any stripe.

    But now the conservatives are saying, "Well, McCain lost the election because he was too centrist and had liberal leanings. We need to get back to our hardcore, fundamentalist conservative roots. Our whole problem is that we've capitulated too much, we've given in to the moderates and centrists. Screw that; we're going back to fundamentalist Right-wing Extremism. Then we'll win back America, by golly."

    See, I don't really think that plan is going to work.
    But, I mean, I hope they don't let my opinion stop them.
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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    Would you please explain what you mean by your comment? How does what McCain said today explain why he lost?
    That McCain, the one that's always standing up and fighting his own party, mr. congeniality also failed to inspire his base, he had nothing going for him prior to Palin's selection in terms of exciting us, the conservative base. And no matter what you might want to think otherwise, McCain is a symptom of what ails the GOP. I voted for McCain, not because he was worth it, but because Obama was not. I'm still torn on how to view the 2008 election, bad for America but good for the Conservatives to rid the GOP of the cancer of "moderates". Or is it bad all around? Not sure to be honest.

    Hell half the moderate GOP news and commentators out there cheering on McCain in the primaries were lined up behind Obama for the GE. Time to dump the riff raff off where they belong.

    Now, I don't disagree a tempered word on the recent scandal isn't in order, but scolding his own party like this... Yeah, no.
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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Our whole problem is that we've capitulated too much, we've given in to the moderates and centrists. Screw that; we're going back to fundamentalist Right-wing Extremism. Then we'll win back America, by golly."

    See, I don't really think that plan is going to work.
    But, I mean, I hope they don't let my opinion stop them.




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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    That McCain, the one that's always standing up and fighting his own party, mr. congeniality also failed to inspire his base, he had nothing going for him prior to Palin's selection in terms of exciting us, the conservative base. And no matter what you might want to think otherwise, McCain is a symptom of what ails the GOP. I voted for McCain, not because he was worth it, but because Obama was not. I'm still torn on how to view the 2008 election, bad for America but good for the Conservatives to rid the GOP of the cancer of "moderates". Or is it bad all around? Not sure to be honest.
    Rid the GOP of the "cancer of moderates" to your own detriment and demise.
    Rid the GOP of the "cancer of moderates", and the GOP will comprise- ooh!- a whole 10 or 15% of Americans.
    Then where will you be?
    If the rest of the nation decides you're too obnoxious and locks you all up in a FEMA camp somewhere, you won't even have the numbers to fight back.

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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Rid the GOP of the "cancer of moderates" to your own detriment and demise.
    Rid the GOP of the "cancer of moderates", and the GOP will comprise- ooh!- a whole 10 or 15% of Americans.
    Then where will you be?
    If the rest of the nation decides you're too obnoxious and locks you all up in a FEMA camp somewhere, you won't even have the numbers to fight back.
    Putting dissenters in camps IS a progressive mindset... but we have the guns.. come and try it

    I'm a Reagan Conservative, not a blue blood moderate RINO. Bring back that brand of Conservatism.
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    Re: McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Rid the GOP of the "cancer of moderates" to your own detriment and demise.
    Rid the GOP of the "cancer of moderates", and the GOP will comprise- ooh!- a whole 10 or 15% of Americans.
    Then where will you be?
    If the rest of the nation decides you're too obnoxious and locks you all up in a FEMA camp somewhere, you won't even have the numbers to fight back.
    Did Patrick Henry compromise when he said "Give me liberty or give me death!" Nay!

    I would rather the GOP die as a party of Conservativism, than to live as a plagued party riddled with moderates and liberals. Liberals belong in the democrat party, not the republican party by any means.

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