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Shoes thrown at Bush on Iraq trip

Hatuey said:
In America freedom exists as long as you don't attempt assault with a smelly weapon.
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Fair enough.

The way i see it everyone wins.
The journalist is a hero and Bush is just that little bit more liked.
 
My thoughts :

Bush is an prick. He's probably the worst president I'll ever get to see short of the president who decides it'll be a good idea to use nukes again. He's a guy who I'd probably have a beer with but wouldn't let him try to fix a working clock. Yes I'm serious. He's a guy who's jokes have annoyed me as a liberal. He's a guy who has sent my family members to fight a war I don't believe in. I don't like him.

However, he is still the President of what is still the most powerful country in the world. He's been the most protected man for the last 8 years for a reason. He's the CinC of our military. He's a guy who aside from all his faults doesn't deserve to be disrespected at least in such a classless manner. I don't even think he needs to be disrespected to show disagreement with him.

We do not live in a time where dissent needs to be shown as physical savagery. If this same journalist had voiced his dissent at Bush through his work then I'd be behind him 100% but he didn't. He chose a road where his motives won't be remembered. All people will remember is that he threw a shoe. Not caring about why. I don't know why Sirdan Sirdan shot Kennedy. I don't know why Lennon's killer pulled the trigger. I don't know why some guy threw a pie at Bill Gates. I just know they did it. They didn't get their message across. All they did was put their names in the headlines long enough for people to remember them and not their motives.
 
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Laila said:
Fair enough.

The way i see it everyone wins.
The journalist is a hero and Bush is just that little bit more liked.
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A hero to whom? Liberals in Berkeley and Europe maybe.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Yet that is not what you quoted nor bolded my friend.,
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Yeah, that is a interesting quote no?
That was my favourite quote along with

Iraq considers Sunday as the international day for shoes," said a text message circulating around the Saudi capital Riyadh.
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I should have linked the story, you would have got my drift


Thousands demand release of shoe-throwing journalist - Telegraph

Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Free Bush shoe-thrower, Iraqis urge
 
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Laila said:
Arabs hail shoe attack as Bush's farewell gift - Yahoo! News

Arabs love him now.
Americans like Bush just that little more, if only for his impressive dodge.

Lmao, maybe not hero to me.
But i must say i have a soft spot for him now just for the lol factor.
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There is NOTHING in that article supporting your claim that 'Arabs' love him. A few hundred Arabs rejoiced. Yay. The same numbers that rejoiced when America got hit by 9/11. I find it funny that if this article was about 'Muslims' being happy about terrorist attacks you'd probably be the FIRST person to claim 'it's not Muslims' but 'some Muslims'. You're a hypocrite. Thanks for playing.
 
Hatuey said:
My thoughts :

Bush is an prick. He's probably the worst president I'll ever get to see short of the president who decides it'll be a good idea to use nukes again. He's a guy who I'd probably have a beer with but wouldn't let him try to fix a working clock. Yes I'm serious. He's a guy who's jokes have annoyed me as a liberal. He's a guy who has sent my family members to fight a war I don't believe in. I don't like him.

However, he is still the President of what is still the most powerful country in the world. He's been the most protected man for the last 8 years for a reason. He's the CinC of our military. He's a guy who aside from all his faults doesn't deserve to be disrespected at least in such a classless manner. I don't even think he needs to be disrespected to show disagreement with him.

We do not live in a time where dissent needs to be shown as physical savagery. If this same journalist had voiced his dissent at Bush through his work then I'd be behind him 100% but he didn't. He chose a road where his motives won't be remembered. All people will remember is that he threw a shoe. Not caring about why. I don't know why Sirdan Sirdan shot Kennedy. I don't know why Lennon's killer pulled the trigger. I don't know why some guy threw a pie at Bill Gates. I just know they did it. They didn't get their message across. All they did was put their names in the headlines long enough for people to remember them and not their motives.
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Uhh.. I think you got it backwards. If this guy would have just yelled it out then only a few people even ever would have looked at it. Because he threw a shoe though the entire world knows why he did. Im just glad the savagery wasn't all that savage. Look what the person who disagreed with Bhutto did.
 
Hatuey said:
There is NOTHING in that article supporting your claim that 'Arabs' love him. A few hundred Arabs rejoiced. Yay. The same numbers that rejoiced when America got hit by 9/11. I find it funny that if this article was about 'Muslims' being happy about terrorist attacks you'd probably be the FIRST person to claim 'it's not Muslims' but 'some Muslims'. You're a hypocrite. Thanks for playing.
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Not all Arabs obviously seeing Arabs include Christians, Sunnis and Shia.
But some do see him as a hero, that is true.
When and if i say ALL arabs or ALL muslims see him as a hero then you may call me hypocrite

I shouldn't need to even say 'some muslims'
That should be common sense to the intelligent that not all 1.2 billion support terror attacks seeing in US alone there are millions of Muslims and not all of them have blown themselves up :roll:

Are you comparing a shoe being chucked at your President to terror attacks? How ridiculous. Come up with a better comparison
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Hatuey said:
My thoughts :

Bush is an prick. He's probably the worst president I'll ever get to see short of the president who decides it'll be a good idea to use nukes again.meaning that you disagree with President Harry Truman's use of the A-bomb on Japan.....better a million Japanese dead rather than a thousand Americans dead....or even one.. He's a guy who I'd probably have a beer with but wouldn't let him try to fix a working clock. Yes I'm serious. He's a guy who's jokes have annoyed me as a liberal. He's a guy who has sent my family members to fight a war I don't believe in. I don't like him.

However, he is still the President of what is still the most powerful country in the world. He's been the most protected man for the last 8 years for a reason. He's the CinC of our military. He's a guy who aside from all his faults doesn't deserve to be disrespected at least in such a classless manner. I don't even think he needs to be disrespected to show disagreement with him.

We do not live in a time where dissent needs to be shown as physical savagery. If this same journalist had voiced his dissent at Bush through his work then I'd be behind him 100% but he didn't. He chose a road where his motives won't be remembered. All people will remember is that he threw a shoe. Not caring about why. I don't know why Sirdan Sirdan shot Kennedy. I don't know why Lennon's killer pulled the trigger. I don't know why some guy threw a pie at Bill Gates. I just know they did it. They didn't get their message across. All they did was put their names in the headlines long enough for people to remember them and not their motives.
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Assassins, criminals have twisted minds, and surely no respect for their fellow man..
Of course, the smelly shoe thrower did the wrong thing; its not nice; but then what he did he perceived to be the right thing at the time.. Bush is lucky that it was not a hand grenade..
 
earthworm said:
Assassins, criminals have twisted minds, and surely no respect for their fellow man..
Of course, the smelly shoe thrower did the wrong thing; its not nice; but then what he did he perceived to be the right thing at the time.. Bush is lucky that it was not a hand grenade..
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Im tired of hearing the hand gernade thing. It could not have just as easily been a gernade. They do not allow weapons into these things.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
By this logic, one could say "arabs love terrorism".......
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I never said all Arabs, re read my words.
Common sense eludes some, never will all arabs or all muslims agree on 1 thing. That is impossible
 
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I think a lot of people are making a far bigger deal out of this than it warrants. Was it disrespectful to throw a shoe at our President? Absolutely. It would be to do so to any world leader. However, it was just a shoe. The most that is going to be made out of this is that it is going to get a few hundred thousand hits on Youtube and it will probably get a brief mention on Best Week Ever. Stuff like this is the lifeblood of internet video like Youtube. Who cares? The absurdity of it only underlines the fact that we should all be able to laugh about it and move on rather than take it seriously in any way.
 
Laila said:
Not all Arabs obviously seeing Arabs include Christians, Sunnis and Shia.
But some do see him as a hero, that is true.
When and if i say ALL arabs or ALL muslims see him as a hero then you may call me hypocrite

I shouldn't need to even say 'some muslims'
That should be common sense to the intelligent that not all 1.2 billion support terror attacks seeing in US alone there are millions of Muslims and not all of them have blown themselves up :roll:
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The problem is that you'd make it an issue to say 'some Muslims' and not all Arabs. It's a bit hypocritical considering only a few hundred seem to 'love him'. It's sect status. His goal was a failure.

Are you comparing a shoe being chucked at your President to terror attacks? How ridiculous. Come up with a better comparison
:2wave:
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No. Now learn to read.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Uhh.. I think you got it backwards. If this guy would have just yelled it out then only a few people even ever would have looked at it. Because he threw a shoe though the entire world knows why he did. Im just glad the savagery wasn't all that savage. Look what the person who disagreed with Bhutto did.
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Right. And now he's remembered for WHAT he did and not WHY he did it. His goal : Fail.
 
Hatuey said:
The problem is that you'd make it an issue to say 'some Muslims' and not all Arabs. It's a bit hypocritical considering only a few hundred seem to 'love him'. It's sect status. His goal was a failure.
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When have i ever made it an issue?

I always make it clear not all Muslims support one thing. I shouldn't even NEED to make that clear

Whenever anyone on this forum make a thread and label it 'Muslims ..... '
I never jump on them for using the term 'Muslim' as i know they mean a minority within the Muslim community. You should have done the same.
 
Hatuey said:
There is NOTHING in that article supporting your claim that 'Arabs' love him. A few hundred Arabs rejoiced. Yay. The same numbers that rejoiced when America got hit by 9/11. I find it funny that if this article was about 'Muslims' being happy about terrorist attacks you'd probably be the FIRST person to claim 'it's not Muslims' but 'some Muslims'. You're a hypocrite. Thanks for playing.
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Did all the Arab reporters throw shoes, or just one?
 
Hatuey said:
My thoughts :
We do not live in a time where dissent needs to be shown as physical savagery. If this same journalist had voiced his dissent at Bush through his work then I'd be behind him 100% but he didn't. He chose a road where his motives won't be remembered.
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Are you sure?

He will most certainly be remembered longer than the "THOUSANDS" of disaffected journalists from around the world who have wrote damming reports about Bushes policies. A fitting end to a walking disaster i,d say.

Paul.
 
gunner said:
Are you sure?

He will most certainly be remembered longer than the "THOUSANDS" of disaffected journalists from around the world who have wrote damming reports about Bushes policies. A fitting end to a walking disaster i,d say.

Paul.
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And the UK supported him all the way. UK epic fail.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yep, god knows I love my freedom to randomly assult people.

****ing idiots
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I've already gone through this, im not going through it again.

I suggest actually reading the ****ing thread and response to that post :roll:
 
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