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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    How much per hour does Toyota pay their American employees comapred to Ford and/or GM?
    IIRC around 20-25 dollars, but don't quote me on that.
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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    How much per hour does Toyota pay their American employees comapred to Ford and/or GM?
    Beats me. How much?

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

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    ....I read this and wondered if your opinion is consistent when it comes to the work illegals do.
    Wonder all you want.

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Are you trying to assert that the work of someone on an assembly line is as important as the work of a CEO?
    Are they worth the millions upon million of dollar bonuses awarded to themselves for the stellar job they've been doing? There seems to be no control of their trough, as they are "the deciders." Shoot, I want a job that will award me a big-assed bonus for doing a crappy job.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Beats me. How much?

    I don't know. But they're still a healthy company, even in these economic times. If they pay their American workers the same, how could that be?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Are they worth the millions upon million of dollar bonuses awarded to themselves for the stellar job they've been doing?
    They are if someone pays them that much.

    But, as the issue here is -union- concession, reference to the pay of CEOs is noting more thwn obfuscation and misdrection.

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't know. But they're still a healthy company, even in these economic times. If they pay their American workers the same, how could that be?
    Could be any number of reasons.

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Are they worth the millions upon million of dollar bonuses awarded to themselves for the stellar job they've been doing? There seems to be no control of their trough, as they are "the deciders." Shoot, I want a job that will award me a big-assed bonus for doing a crappy job.
    If I were on the company's board of directors I'd say probably not, but I'm not so their bosses are the ones who decide.
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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Which is completely false. They aren't getting paid beaucoup bucks for no reason.
    That depends on what perspective you approach the question from. From the perspective of a capitalist, yes, the job of a CEO, that is to increase revenue, is necessary, as is the entire bureaucracy of management. Of course, it should be obvious that I'm not concerned with maximizing revenue.

    In the process of the sustainability of human society through production, their job is utterly unnecessary, as it has been historically shown many times that workers are capable (in fact, more so, as generally when factories are appropriated by its workers their productivity increases) of self-management.

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    Re: US car bail-out talks 'collapse'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    They are if someone pays them that much.
    If that is truly your opinion, then I don't understand why you have issue with the unions.

    In your own words:

    They are (the union workers) if someone pays them that much (GM, Chrysler, Ford).
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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