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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKC View Post
    Wrong. That is just completely and utterly false. It is not even how the convention is called. TWO THIRDS, not 3/4 of the states must call for a convention for it to happen, first of all. So that would be your first ridiculous error. Secondly, the convention does not have the power to ratify its own amendments. It didn't even have this power with the ORIGINAL convention, when our constitution was adopted! Remember the whole has to go to the states and 9 of them need to ratify it thing?
    2/3--you're right. I just picked up 3/4 from this post and the number stuck in my head...
    Quote Originally Posted by Iriemon View Post
    Any proposals adopted by convention would have to be approved by 3/4 of the states.

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    2/3--you're right. I just picked up 3/4 from this post and the number stuck in my head...
    So are you merely conceding that point, or the entire sensationalist attack upon the constitution in general? I'm also awaiting your admission that 3/4 of the state legislatures will be required to ratify such amendments, an enormous check upon the system.

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Strange I haven't heard a single mention of the supposed plan for a convention. So is this some secret plan being plotted?
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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    2/3--you're right. I just picked up 3/4 from this post and the number stuck in my head...
    3/4 is the fraction of states that must approve (ratify) any proposals adopted by a convention.

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    Exclamation Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Sadly, there is an incredible amount of incorrect information and outright intentional disinformation that has shaped so many views about the Article V convention option that our beloved Founders gave us in OUR Constitution because they correctly foresaw that citizens would eventually lose trust in the federal government. Fear has been intentionally instilled in so many people who really want to keep the current, status quo and corrupt political system. Open your mind and go to Welcome to Friends Of the Article V Convention to learn all the true facts about the Article V convention option. If you fear a convention, then you have been brainwashed - not your fault, of course, but you can correct this by learning the truth.

    For example, there are safeguards so that you really do not have to fear what a convention might PROPOSE. Because anything it proposes must be ratified by 3/4 of the states, which is a very tough hurdle to overcome. Plus, imagine the incredible public and media attention to the nation's first Article V convention.

    Our group Friends of the Article V convention is a nonpartisan national group with the single mission of compelling Congress to obey the Constitution and give us the first Article V convention. We do not advocate for or against any specific amendment.

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Has anybody heard about this?

    This is very dangerous for our country, especially with the congress that we have today. They can stick ANY amendment in there that they want, and we have NO say over the matter. Yesterday I received an email saying they were only 2 states away from the 34 they need to hold one...Ohio and one more. It looks like Ohio caved.
    Laws, Acts, and Legislation
    They want to hold a convention for a balanced budget amendment. What alot of people don't realize is they DON'T HAVE TO STOP there. They could add things like...

    1. Total civilian disarmament.
    2. Socialization of industry.
    3. Confiscation of private property.
    4. Torture of citizens.
    5. Suppression of the Press and of Religion
    6. Disposal of the requirement that you have to be a natural born citizen of
    the US to be president....hmmm.
    1. Bittersweet. Our fear of this represents our nation's distrust of the government... and each other.

    2. We already have that (bailouts, anyone?).

    3. Already have that (search and seizure/repossession).

    4. Already have that (prison system).

    5. Uhhh?! Already have that! Hello! Since religion is a political device used worldwide, they actually are a potential threat to national security, though.

    6. This... is appalling.

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    I also wanted to mention: in that they are the commander in chiefs of our military, United States presidents should definitely have served in the military. And ranked.

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eko Ren View Post
    I also wanted to mention: in that they are the commander in chiefs of our military, United States presidents should definitely have served in the military. And ranked.
    Why? That automatically eliminates a huge portion of the population doesn't it?

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    Re: Calls For A Constitutional Convention?

    Quote Originally Posted by statusquobuster View Post
    Sadly, there is an incredible amount of incorrect information and outright intentional disinformation that has shaped so many views about the Article V convention option that our beloved Founders gave us in OUR Constitution because they correctly foresaw that citizens would eventually lose trust in the federal government. Fear has been intentionally instilled in so many people who really want to keep the current, status quo and corrupt political system. Open your mind and go to Welcome to Friends Of the Article V Convention to learn all the true facts about the Article V convention option. If you fear a convention, then you have been brainwashed - not your fault, of course, but you can correct this by learning the truth.

    For example, there are safeguards so that you really do not have to fear what a convention might PROPOSE. Because anything it proposes must be ratified by 3/4 of the states, which is a very tough hurdle to overcome. Plus, imagine the incredible public and media attention to the nation's first Article V convention.

    Our group Friends of the Article V convention is a nonpartisan national group with the single mission of compelling Congress to obey the Constitution and give us the first Article V convention. We do not advocate for or against any specific amendment.
    From your(?) website:

    To help the public understand the difference between an Article V Convention, which FOAVC fully supports, and a "constitutional convention" that would rethink the entirety of our current Constitution, which FOAVC emphatically does not support;
    They're calling for a constitutional convention, which you do NOT support. Tell us WHY you don't support it, please.

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