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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Lets see we have got Obama(Chicago), Pelosi(San Fransisco) and Reid(Nevada/Las Vegas). Should be an interesting 4 years.
    Should be an amazing 8 years actually. I love the GOP squirm and Obama hasn't even taken the oath of office yet.

    Hey Republicans! Don't forget to thank Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Rice, Libby, Cunningham, DeLay, Abramoff and of course Rove for a great 8 years and the incredible legacy they've left behind!

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post

    And this is based on...??

    You'd think that the junior Senator, current President-elect would have some influence, no?
    Perhaps you should pay a bit closer attention to what Fitzpatrick actually said today? He answered the question re Obama directly by saying that Obama was not involved in this in anyway at all, period. Did you miss that part of the news conference?

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't say Obama is dirty because of what Blagojevich has done. I said he's dirty cause he came up through Chicago and Chicago is the most corrupted body politic in the country. You can't come up through Chicago clean, it doesn't happen. Daley and his cronies will see to that. It's not guilt through association, it's measured data. Go learn a thing or two about Chicago politics and then come back when you're ready to engage in an intellectually honest debate.
    You ask for me to "come back when you're ready to engage in an intellectually honest debate" when you make a blanket generalization about all Chicago politicians? Are you serious? There is nothing intellectual about falsely accusing Obama without any intellectual evidence of any kind. You prefer to pronounce Obama guilty and you do so claiming your opinion is fact and beyond debate!

    With all due respect this post you wrote is anything but intellectual and it is not a debating point either because your mind is made up based on conspiracy theory bull****.

    Therefore I ask you to reconsider your rash statement and come back and debate me on what specifically Obama did that was corrupt in Illinois. Proof please, not bull****. If you can't prove that he did something then you have lost the debate.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Ok, so this guy wanted to bid out the senate seat. Who the **** pays money, to become a senator? Thats like paying somebody to take a dump on your face. Kind of like a reverse Fear Factor.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    Perhaps you should pay a bit closer attention to what Fitzpatrick actually said today? He answered the question re Obama directly by saying that Obama was not involved in this in anyway at all, period. Did you miss that part of the news conference?
    Um, no that incorrect. The news agencies are making that claim. Fitzpatrick said:

    Fitzgerald said federal officials were making "no allegations" that Obama himself was "aware of anything" in connection with the case.

    This does not imply that allegations will not be made later during the investigation. These are testy waters with a future President-elect that might come into play and a slew of powerhouse political entities. The investigation will have to tread softly and not make any announcements without having rock hard evidence to back it up. Allegations will not happen until they can make an indictment. If they do make any allegations that don't stick their entire department can kiss their careers goodbye.

    The investigation already has a pre-mature "hand was forced" smell to it and I'm wondering if some political muscle hasn't already been used to short stop the process.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Yea...sort of like Alaska, Stevens and Palin huh...
    Stevens, I will give you. But Palin? It's not even close to the same thing. Try again.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    You ask for me to "come back when you're ready to engage in an intellectually honest debate" when you make a blanket generalization about all Chicago politicians? Are you serious? There is nothing intellectual about falsely accusing Obama without any intellectual evidence of any kind. You prefer to pronounce Obama guilty and you do so claiming your opinion is fact and beyond debate!

    With all due respect this post you wrote is anything but intellectual and it is not a debating point either because your mind is made up based on conspiracy theory bull****.

    Therefore I ask you to reconsider your rash statement and come back and debate me on what specifically Obama did that was corrupt in Illinois. Proof please, not bull****. If you can't prove that he did something then you have lost the debate.
    Chicago is corrupt. You can not trust Chicago politicians. They are good at hiding what they do as the whole of the system from the politicians to the cops to the judges are corrupt. I've seen that system, I know what they are about. To come up through the Chicago political system means shady dealings. I don't care if there is an R or a D or whatever next to your name. They all take bribes, the political machine there is not dead. It's very much run like organized crime from top to bottom. That is an absolute. Trust a Chicago politician at your own risk. Obama is dirty, even his little land deal which while technically legal horribly abused the spirit of the law. That's how it is done there, they write the rules, they enforce the rules, they judge the rules, they make sure there are enough loopholes for themselves to get away with whatever it is they feel like getting away with. Absolute.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    And yet Obama comes from Chicago politics, and we are told that he is pure as the driven snow. Since he'll soon have the highest office in the land, we'd better all hope that he is, or things will go from bad to worse real fast.
    Expect Chicago in the White House. There will be plenty of pay backs to those whom have helped; plenty of nice cushy jobs given to people completely unqualified for the position. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of Daley's relatives in there.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Stevens, I will give you. But Palin? It's not even close to the same thing. Try again.
    Actually if you do the math it's very close. That and it was my way of highlighting the guilt by association tactic of some around here. Like since this governor is from Illinois and Obama is a senator from Illinois there must be some sort of connection between the two. Just as there is this senator from Alaska and Palin is a governor from Alaska so...well...you get the idea.

    It was meant tongue in cheek (ergo the smilie) but some others missed that part...conveniently.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Actually if you do the math it's very close. That and it was my way of highlighting the guilt by association tactic of some around here. Like since this governor is from Illinois and Obama is a senator from Illinois there must be some sort of connection between the two. Just as there is this senator from Alaska and Palin is a governor from Alaska so...well...you get the idea.

    It was meant tongue in cheek (ergo the smilie) but some others missed that part...conveniently.
    Well, there is the distinction that Palin was partially responsible for the investigations into Stevens.

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