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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And from what I'm reading he's not saying that the governor helped him obtain his political power, unless you think by "cesspool" he's refering to a singular person instead of the plural which the term would usually be used for.

    And if it means what it seems his implication is, Illinois politics in general, then that's another story and you're simply wrong. Obama is closely tied with the Illinois political machine and got his start with the help of Chicago and Illinois political figures. Does that mean Obama had anything to do with what this governor did? Not at all. Does that mean Obama is corrupt or has some black marks on him like MUCH of the rest of the Illinois political landscape? Not necessarily. Does it make some of those that are knowledgeable about the political corruption throughout illinois, on BOTH sides, wonder about the likihood of a man coming up through Chicago and somehow not having any or the usual marks on you that people in that machine tend to get? Yes.
    Good point, I think everyone is a little worried about what the outcome could be. You don't get to be as dirty as Rod without knowing the dirty secrets of those around you. If they put enough pressure the pig will squeal and heads will roll in Illinois.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry...

    I must've been confused. See, I thought we were on a debate forum about politics. You know, one where someone makes a statement and other people respond to those statements. Sometimes, that response is critical of the other persons statement because they poster doesn't agree with it or because they feel the information is poorly proposed.

    Silly me.

    Well, I guess for you its a good thing this isn't a debate forum about politics. Or else I would point out how you didn't "Shine a light on the same type of guilt be association" at all. Because by showing two people, one of which convicted and one of which isn't, and trying to equate that to just one more arrest in a decades old lieneage of corrpution is not "the same type". That's kind of like pointing to someone that has cancer and also eats carrots and going "See, carrots cause cancer just like smoking does. Its the same type of thing!". I mean, if it was a debate forum I would point that out...though I guess if it was a debate site I wouldn't need to point that out because that's what my previous post kind of pointed out...but since its not I guess its not really needed right?

    IF this was a debate site as well, I'd point out you're the silly poster here trying to score political points and make this a "left vs right" thing, as evident by your talk about "the other direction" in your post I guess I shouldn't respond to since we're not on a debate site. You see, I see the OP talking about corruption in Illinois politics, not illinois democrat politics. I see Ikari talking about corrupt Illinois and Chicago politicians, not corrupt Illinois and Chicago democrats. Rebelbuc doesn't even talk about the democrats Obama is around, but Chicago.

    If you were interested in being anything other than a partisan hack here, and actually read the thread (wait, maybe this isn't a site for reading since apparently you also don't think its a site for debating), you'd see the discussion wasn't about "republican" or "Democrat" but "Illinois Politicians". Which, regardless of party, Obama is one and thus he's mentioned. Republicans are also part of the systemic corruption of Illinois politics for ages on end.

    So you shed light on nothing. You made an asanine point because your Spidey like "partisan-sense" went off and you thought "OH OH OH OH OH I can insult Palin and stick it to those mean old republicans!" This is even evident in your next post wanting so badly to have it "cast in the other direction", when in reality no one was casting it in any direction save for towards Illinois. But god forbid your most wonderful and precious Obama be critizied even slightly...if that happens we must attack! We must make some comment, even if it is as close to hitting the actual point or topic of the thread as Virginia is to California.

    I would say all that if this was a debate site, but apparently according to you its not. Apparently I'm not supposed to counter asanine, worthless points you make in a debate type style. I'm just supposed to not respond because apparently I was mistaken I was on a forum called "DEBATE Politics".

    My apologize rsixing. Continue to enjoy "Soapbox Politics where no one may dare say I'm wrong".
    Further patronizing remarks from you. Nice.

    Try debating any merit/or lack thereof in my response rather then talking down to me with "Way to try and score political points and FAIL" and "...was it just a really ****ty attempt to score political points that is laughable outside of a few typical fanboys" and perhaps my responses won't be so defensive. Unless that was your plan all along...?!


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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I live an hour north of Chicago.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    DISCLAIMER: I just want to state for the record that I've never been to Chicago (or Illinois for that matter). My comments in this thread are directed against dirty Chicago politicians and are not in any way meant to show disrespect to the fine citizens of Chicago. [I modeled this appeal to the masses after the oft-quoted claim: "I'm against the war but I love the troops!"]
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Let me first say that this is all all caused by Barrack Hussein Obama. Because they both live in Illinois.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If the governor did something illegal why shouldn't Obama hrow him under the bus?
    Like Palin threw Stevens off the bus?

    It is distasteful for public figures condemning citizens or other officials unless they are officially convicted.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    I heard the news and went out looting and rioting.

    Good times.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I really hope we never elect a President who comes out of the Chicago political machine.

    ain't it the truth?


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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And from what I'm reading he's not saying that the governor helped him obtain his political power, unless you think by "cesspool" he's refering to a singular person instead of the plural which the term would usually be used for.

    And if it means what it seems his implication is, Illinois politics in general, then that's another story and you're simply wrong. Obama is closely tied with the Illinois political machine and got his start with the help of Chicago and Illinois political figures. Does that mean Obama had anything to do with what this governor did? Not at all. Does that mean Obama is corrupt or has some black marks on him like MUCH of the rest of the Illinois political landscape? Not necessarily. Does it make some of those that are knowledgeable about the political corruption throughout illinois, on BOTH sides, wonder about the likihood of a man coming up through Chicago and somehow not having any or the usual marks on you that people in that machine tend to get? Yes.

    The house of cards is going to come down quick - with a domino effect.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    At least this time around the politician isnt trying to get a hooker.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    At least this time around the politician isnt trying to get a hooker.
    Nah, this time the whole coutnry was getting ****ed
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