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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    It's kind of hard to argue with the facts, isn't it? The poster (Jallman) who was so defensive about Alaska and how it is in no way as politically corrupt as Illinois was speaking from his heart not from his head.

    Hell ex-Senator and convicted felon Ted Stevens was found guilty on seven felony counts and still only lost the election by a few thousand votes so it's not just the politicians in Alaska who accept corruption but it's also the general populace who are willing to overlook felonies by their Senator because he was great at bringing home the bacon for Alaska...isn't that like the general public accepting bribes for their vote...aka "Pay to Play"?
    No, he was speaking from FACT. Alaskan politics are nowhere near as corrupt as Illinois politics. Stevens was not the norm for Alaskan politics and he is now gone. Try again.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, he was speaking from FACT. Alaskan politics are nowhere near as corrupt as Illinois politics. Stevens was not the norm for Alaskan politics and he is now gone. Try again.
    I thought that there was a lot of oil corruption that had to be cleaned up.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I thought that there was a lot of oil corruption that had to be cleaned up.
    There was but it was very recent (as in the past 5-10 years or so). That is nowhere near the history of corruption that Illinois and, especially, Chicago politics has.

    And another big difference: it actually got cleaned up.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    There was but it was very recent (as in the past 5-10 years or so). That is nowhere near the history of corruption that Illinois and, especially, Chicago politics has.

    And another big difference: it actually got cleaned up.
    Chicago is really bad. Chicago is Illinois.

    Can you guarantee that Alaska will remain free of corruption. Oil=Money=corruption.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Chicago is really bad. Chicago is Illinois.

    Can you guarantee that Alaska will remain free of corruption. Oil=Money=corruption.
    Why would I have to guarantee such a thing? I can guarantee this: politicians found to be corrupt in Alaska don't make it very far. I don't know this, but I have a good idea that Steven's corruption was probably pretty recent. He never would have made it as far as he did if he'd started out corrupt. His run is over.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Why would I have to guarantee such a thing? I can guarantee this: politicians found to be corrupt in Alaska don't make it very far. I don't know this, but I have a good idea that Steven's corruption was probably pretty recent. He never would have made it as far as he did if he'd started out corrupt. His run is over.
    Then why did Alaska have the THIRD most convictions of Politicians per capita in from 1998 to 2007?

    THAT is a fact.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Then why did Alaska have the THIRD most convictions of Politicians per capita in from 1998 to 2007?

    THAT is a fact.
    That's just it. There are many corrupt politicians in Alaska, however, they get prosecuted and convicted when found out. The same cannot be said about cities like Chicago.

    Chicago is known for its corruptness mainly because corrupt politicians don't get prosecuted and convicted many times even though they are corrupt.

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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's just it. There are many corrupt politicians in Alaska, however, they get prosecuted and convicted when found out. The same cannot be said about cities like Chicago.
    George Ryan would probably disagree. There were 500 convictions in Illinois as well during the time frame.

    Chicago is known for its corruptness mainly because corrupt politicians don't get prosecuted and convicted many times even though they are corrupt.
    Chicago is corrupt. I'm not claiming it isn't, but Alaska is ALSO corrupt. ALL States have corrupt politicians. I thinka ****load of people who don't know squat about Chicago outside of its reputation (One that stems from Al Capone's era) are talking a lot of **** and pretending their own states aren't similarly corrupt.
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Why would I have to guarantee such a thing? I can guarantee this: politicians found to be corrupt in Alaska don't make it very far. I don't know this, but I have a good idea that Steven's corruption was probably pretty recent. He never would have made it as far as he did if he'd started out corrupt. His run is over.
    How long did he represent the people of Alaska?
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    Re: Ill. Governor taken into custody, Obama's seat part of inquery...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's just it. There are many corrupt politicians in Alaska, however, they get prosecuted and convicted when found out. The same cannot be said about cities like Chicago.

    Chicago is known for its corruptness mainly because corrupt politicians don't get prosecuted and convicted many times even though they are corrupt.
    Then how come half of our Governors have done time?

    How about Bettty Loren-Maltese?
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