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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    I honestly can't tell whether this is sarcasm.
    It's not.

    Well, it does but not in any way of substance. The missile defence isn't as refined as it sounds, at least not yet.
    Even at its planned level of deployment and efficacy, shooting down 50 Russian warheads changes nothing.

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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    There you go, again...the US is always the bad guy, the provcateur, right? In this instance, it's the US backing Iran into a corner and Iran is just a victim of US/Israeli aggression.

    I mean, it's not like Iran has not been waging war against by proxy against both the US and Israel. It's not Iran is not a brutally repressive regime that has already developed wmd's and, by their own admissions, are intent on developing nukes as well as "annihilating" Israel.

    But, rather, it is the US that is the problem.

    Sick. Weak. Pathetic.
    You are dealing here with people who grew up hidding under the table everytime their teacher told them to practice emergency strategies against a nuclear attack by the Russians or Chinese.

    This trauma has been inherited by the following generations of americans and there is no cure for it because the US leaders receive their political position and fame thanks to the companies that make great profit selling arms, including defense systems.

    That US is the "agressor"...well, the world hasn't changed about landlords, servants, and slaves...in this world there is no equailty and to try to reach it such is a myth, some countries must suffer the place of slaves, other countries to comply the place of servants, and a small group of countries the position of masters. Don't even dream that the US populations will give away their privilege of imposing their power over other countries to make them equal, such should go against the american interests, so forget about it.

    The laughable fact is that will all the intelligence working 24/7 against military attacks against US land, a small group of 19 terrorists made such a mess that did cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars without shooting a single bullet.

    Any terrorist -nation or individual- knows that is a waste trying to attack US by air, water or land with heavy armament or missiles of any kind. On the other hand, this defense system must be set in order to work inside their assumed shield, because terrorists might try to enter in the computer system to use the same US missiles against US cities, this is a more factible future event because wars are mostly won not because good strategies or because heroes but because traitors are giving the help. ..."we must be also ready to defend of ourselves" must be their motto...
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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    That wasn't a false dichotomy. So you are safe this time.

    Its just speculation which you are entitiled to.
    I was talking about JMak's comments.

    If that is your logic then why ever have considered constructing any number of weapons systems beyond bows and arrows, rocks, horses, etc.? The utility in developing new weapons systems, offensive or defensive, is to gain tactical or strategic advantage.

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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    Any terrorist -nation or individual- knows that is a waste trying to attack US by air, water or land with heavy armament or missiles of any kind. On the other hand, this defense system must be set in order to work inside their assumed shield, because terrorists might try to enter in the computer system to use the same US missiles against US cities. This is a more factible future event...

    You're argung that it would be simpler/more effective for the terrorists to attack us with a fireship than a missile, and THEN you're arguing that it is even MORE likely that they will find a way to us our own ICBMs on our own cities.

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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post

    You're argung that it would be simpler/more effective for the terrorists to attack us with a fireship than a missile, and THEN you're arguing that it is even MORE likely that they will find a way to us our own ICBMs on our own cities.
    Because they (terrorists) won't need to acquire such kind of arms (nuclear devices, missiles, etc). Look at the recent past, they used US passenger airplanes to attack US land, they can make the same in the future, just to use US arms against ourselves...a key traitor in the US attack/defense system could be their best ally...

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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    Because they (terrorists) won't need to acquire such kind of arms (nuclear devices, missiles, etc). Look at the recent past, they used US passenger airplanes to attack US land, they can make the same in the future, just to use US arms against ourselves...a key traitor in the US attack/defense system could be their best ally...
    Yes. Gaining control of US ICBMs and using them on US cities is the simplest and easiet option for terrorists who want to nuke US cities.

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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Such as? We already have weapons that can take out satellites. We already have weapons to take out cruise missiles. We already have weapons that can shoot down planes. We already have weapons against air to surface.

    So what exactly are we targeting with missile defense other then ICBMs?
    You are aware that there are other classes of offensive missiles which aren't ICBMs? (Like, oh, the ones targeted in the tests?) Or perhaps you're using "ICBM" to mean something that it doesn't?
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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    Because they (terrorists) won't need to acquire such kind of arms (nuclear devices, missiles, etc). Look at the recent past, they used US passenger airplanes to attack US land, they can make the same in the future, just to use US arms against ourselves...a key traitor in the US attack/defense system could be their best ally...
    I don't think anyone's created an emoticon which really captures the proper reaction to this.
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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't think anyone's created an emoticon which really captures the proper reaction to this.
    I do:

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    Re: US successfully tests anti-missile shield

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Asde from the fact that I said "stay ahead of the threat" precludes any necessity of this...
    There in no question whatsoever that both Iran and NK are developing missiles that can reach the areas protected by the NMD.
    Missiles - North Korea Special Weapons
    Iran Missiles
    (Note that these sites are not up-to-date)
    So NK is a threat, everything coming from Iran says it is not.

    LOL
    Don't have a counter-argument, so you side-step by claiming that I am afraid.
    LOL
    Do you have a different reason for supporting the spending of 1/3 the budget on our military than these threats?

    You havent provided any evidence to discard.
    Disagree?
    Show any evidence whatsoever that the NMD is intended to protect the US or its alloes from a residual second-strike missile attack.
    Why do I need to prove this. You agree the NMD is intended to protect the US from a missile strike. I believe there is no legitimate threat and you have brought forward nothing new. North Korea is a wild card and Iran is complying. As conquerer has brought up, war in the 21st century cannot be won through 21st century technology.

    Then tell me why you think it is a bad idea for the US to be able to shoot down a nuclear-tipped ICBM launched at an American city.
    I did not say this. I think it is a bad idea to spread this technology across Europe and into the middle east. If the purpose is to defend America then the technology developed should remain for that purpose.

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