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    Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Alongside a Nativity scene at the Legislative Building in Olympia, Washington, a sign put up by an atheist organization celebrates the winter solstice. But it's the rest of the sign that has some residents and Christian organizations calling atheists Scrooges for attacking the celebration of Jesus Christ's birth.

    "Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds," the sign says in part.
    Atheists take aim at Christmas - CNN.com

    You can see a picture of the sign at the link.

    I agree with the Atheists right to display their own religious message next to the nativity scene but I don't agree with the way they are doing it. There is no reason for them to blatantly attack religion in their message. If they would have written the sign describing their believes and the purpose of Winter Solstice without the attacks then there would no issue here.

    Do you think the atheists went to far with the sign? Should they not be able to place a sign at all?

    I would love to agree with the Atheists here but they are making it hard.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Atheists take aim at Christmas - CNN.com

    You can see a picture of the sign at the link.

    I agree with the Atheists right to display their own religious message next to the nativity scene but I don't agree with the way they are doing it. There is no reason for them to blatantly attack religion in their message. If they would have written the sign describing their believes and the purpose of Winter Solstice without the attacks then there would no issue here.

    Do you think the atheists went to far with the sign? Should they not be able to place a sign at all?

    I would love to agree with the Atheists here but they are making it hard.
    If Christians are allowed to place holiday displays on government property then all religions should be granted the same right. However, the sign comes off as incredibly arrogant and condescending. I find it ironic that a lot of anti-Christian people are just as fanatical and closeminded about other religions beliefs who dare to believe in a deity. If people want to believe in a deity or not believe in a deity that is their right. Who gives a ****?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    pew pew pew

    Take that Christmas!

    Heheh.
    I think that in reality, people out there have too thin of skin on both sides of the issue. This is the atheists lashing out, and it's not appropriate. But I don't see any one side being in the right or wrong wholly. I think people need to just calm down a bit on this issue. There's freedom of religion in this country which means that people are free to practice and express their beliefs, this includes atheists as well. But we should just take note of that. It's ok to be an atheist, it's ok to be a Christian, it's ok to be whatever religion you wish so long as in the exercise of that religion you do not infringe upon the rights of others. What they said about the manger scene is IMO crap. Furthermore, I don't know why it even matters. If the community wants it up, then it can go up. Their land, their choice as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't know, at some point I don't get the bickering over religion. We all have our ideals and beliefs and we're free to have them and express them. But that doesn't necessitate being a jerk. Yes, winter solstice is the source of pretty much all winter celebration, including Christmas. So what? Things change, society changes, people change. It's now ascribed predominately in this country as a celebration of the birth of Jesus. Let it go. Stagnation has never been good for our species. It's slow death. But I do see some on the other side being just as bad, particularly Sean Hannity whom I believe uses this as nothing more than ratings propaganda. Let it go. People have different beliefs and feelings, let them have it. So long as you ain't hurting anyone, there's no big deal. There's atheists, there's theists of all different creeds; good. It means we're free to believe as we want. In the end, we all inhabit this chunk of rock orbiting our sun; so we might as well enjoy the ride.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    It did also give Bill O'Reilly an excuse to start up his annual War on Christmas nonsense.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Atheists take aim at Christmas - CNN.com

    You can see a picture of the sign at the link.

    I agree with the Atheists right to display their own religious message next to the nativity scene but I don't agree with the way they are doing it. There is no reason for them to blatantly attack religion in their message. If they would have written the sign describing their believes and the purpose of Winter Solstice without the attacks then there would no issue here.

    Do you think the atheists went to far with the sign? Should they not be able to place a sign at all?

    I would love to agree with the Atheists here but they are making it hard.
    This atheist totally agrees with your assessment. The minute I saw that winter solstice thing, I thought, "OBNOXIOUS." The nativity scene is not put on display to insult atheists, yet the atheists put on a display that insults Christians. To me, that only hurts the atheist's stance.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    I don't understand it when Atheists proselytize. They could have done something really cool, but instead decided to be asses.

    If they are trying to make a point, they could have done it in a far better way that doesn't inspire hatered and angst. I'd have just put up a massive sign saying something like: "Atheism... because Nothing's better. "

    That's kind of festive, don't you think?
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I don't understand it when Atheists proselytize. They could have done something really cool, but instead decided to be asses.

    If they are trying to make a point, they could have done it in a far better way that doesn't inspire hatered and angst. I'd have just put up a massive sign saying something like: "Atheism... because Nothing's better. "

    That's kind of festive, don't you think?
    I personally think that they should have done an empty nativity scene.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I personally think that they should have done an empty nativity scene.
    That's pretty good.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    If Christians are allowed to place holiday displays on government property then all religions should be granted the same right. However, the sign comes off as incredibly arrogant and condescending. I find it ironic that a lot of anti-Christian people are just as fanatical and closeminded about other religions beliefs who dare to believe in a deity. If people want to believe in a deity or not believe in a deity that is their right. Who gives a ****?
    I'm Catholic, but don't hold grudges against other beliefs, this one makes me sick though. I think the Athiest and Nihalist movements forget one thing, absence of belief is still belief.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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