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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    But you wrongly (go figure) attribute atheism to that. Most of those deaths were due to starvation because of a bad government. Atheism has no ideals or dogma to follow, only a lack of belief in the supernatural. If I run over a squirrel with my car it's not because my car hates squirrels.



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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    and wouldn't an anti-theist government be filled with atheists by definition?
    No, an anti-theist government would be filled with anti-theists. Anti-theists are atheists that are actually "at war" with theism. Most atheists think people are dumb for being religious, but they aren't going to go around vandalizing/bombing churches and killing people or anything like that.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Most atheists think people are dumb for being religious...
    What's the point of that? I for one don't find belief or faith in a God as "dumb". At one time, I mistakenly thought that, yes, but I have realized that there is nothing dumb about believing in God.

    What is dumb is trying to convert people to a certain point of view, or disdaining them for their views because they are different from the ones you (general "you") have.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    uhm ok....


    let me ask you then, the "Atheists" that have those sighns, and posters like slip slope, are they "atheists" or "anti theists"

    and wouldn't an anti-theist government be filled with atheists by definition?
    No. First off, there tend to actually be theists in the ranks, you just can't let leadership know cause they'll kill you. The people themselves tend to have many theists as well. There's probably a disproportionate number of atheists as compared to other free countries, but that isn't the main difference. Anti-theism is built on the destruction of religion, all religion. Atheism is merely a lack of belief in gods, there's nothing innate in it which makes one hostile to religion or makes one go out and try to destroy religion and remove its practice. Anti-theism is well employed by communist countries because in those countries there is to be no rival to the power of the leader and the State. Nothing can supersede it, including gods. Thus they move to physically stamp out religion and remove the practice thereof. They will not stand for anything which may be able to claim dominance over the ruling party. But all these people that die at the hands of the State, they aren't being killed in the name of "no god". Atheism isn't employed as justification for the killing. They die in the name of the State, the complete sovereignty and rule of the State is employed as justification for the killing.

    Thus atheism is not to blame for the deaths caused by the anti-theist governments.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What is dumb is trying to convert people to a certain point of view, or disdaining them for their views because they are different from the ones you (general "you") have.
    I think most people could agree with this. BTW Love the Avatar with Tim.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What is dumb is trying to convert people to a certain point of view, or disdaining them for their views because they are different from the ones you (general "you") have.
    I agree but since Christians and many religion aren't going to back down on that tradition, why should atheists?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree but since Christians and many religion aren't going to back down on that tradition, why should atheists?
    ...because atheists have better things to do?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...because atheists have better things to do?
    You mean like stop religious people from making stupid laws that are only based on the religious views? I agree, however, that's all part of the process of converting religious people over.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree but since Christians and many religion aren't going to back down on that tradition, why should atheists?
    It's not a basic tenet of Christianity to do that, some sects of the belief do, most don't. Save your energy for the ones who deserve a good bashing, trust me, I won't stand in your way.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree but since Christians and many religion aren't going to back down on that tradition, why should atheists?



    So atheists are an organized group now who espouse beliefs?
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