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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    mechanically it is identical.
    spiritually and emotionally it is not.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

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    spiritually and emotionally it is not.
    Not for me. I have been known to speak-in-tongues and make sacrifices when the Bears lose.

    I went bugnuts crazy after they lost the Superbowl.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Not for me. I have been known to speak-in-tongues and make sacrifices when the Bears lose.

    I went bugnuts crazy after they lost the Superbowl.
    Don't bring up that Superbowl. Mother****ing Rex Grossman...I hate him almost as much as I hate Peyton Manning. Single handedly lost that Superbowl. Could not convert a damned 3rd down all game. D had Indy beat, just needed a little O for the win...nothing. And now, now I have to deal with Minn being if first place because we lost the second game to them...and they have to lose out whereas the Bears must win out to make the playoffs. God damned Vikings! I hope the lot of them burn in hell.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't bring up that Superbowl. Mother****ing Rex Grossman...I hate him almost as much as I hate Peyton Manning. Single handedly lost that Superbowl. Could not convert a damned 3rd down all game. D had Indy beat, just needed a little O for the win...nothing. And now, now I have to deal with Minn being if first place because we lost the second game to them...and they have to lose out whereas the Bears must win out to make the playoffs. God damned Vikings! I hope the lot of them burn in hell.
    Oops! I think we just proved the Revs point
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't bring up that Superbowl. Mother****ing Rex Grossman...I hate him almost as much as I hate Peyton Manning. Single handedly lost that Superbowl. Could not convert a damned 3rd down all game. D had Indy beat, just needed a little O for the win...nothing. And now, now I have to deal with Minn being if first place because we lost the second game to them...and they have to lose out whereas the Bears must win out to make the playoffs. God damned Vikings! I hope the lot of them burn in hell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Not for me. I have been known to speak-in-tongues and make sacrifices when the Bears lose.

    I went bugnuts crazy after they lost the Superbowl.
    I'm a Saints fan, and Yankees, I've been known to get a little demonic at times when watchning my teams, especially the Saints.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There may have been necessity of a fledgling nation to keep slavery around till a point in which it could get rid of it and survive the turmoil that it would cause.
    My HS US-History teacher strongly believed this and made a convincing argument. I wish I had a source to quote it, but this is something I hold to be true now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And while Christianity is still the dominate religion, it no longer holds monopoly in the eyes of the public at large.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The base of Christianity would of course say it's wrong, but if people were always working from the base then it wouldn't have been a problem in the first place.
    You're speaking my mind. The more we practice what our religion preaches the more freedom people have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Love thy enemy and turn the other cheek are also teachings from Christianity, yet how many Christians are pro war?
    I think a discussion on this belongs in another thread, but "turn the other cheek" is about leveling the battle field, not pacifism, and "love thy enemy" does not mean "let them blow up your school buses, rape your women and fly plains into your buildings".

    God and Jesus are gods of war. Make no mistake about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So just because the founders did something doesn't mean that we should still be doing it. There is a lot of wisdom in their words and philosophy, but there's also some folly in their action. It's not an end all excuse, though I happen to like much of the writings of the founders. There's no war on Christmas or War on Christianity in this country, that's just a ratings grab by people like Hannity and O'Riley. There is beginning to be an overall shift in public perception that is one of more inclusion of other ideals and opinions, but it's not something aligned against the practice of Christianity on the whole (there are individual examples of some being against the practice of religion, but that's a small percentage of the whole).
    I don't consider a special interest group fishing for artificial victims and creating a spectical when no damage actually occurred to be the same as a genuine public shift of opinion.

    I encounter people who want to see the public domain stripped clean of religion to often to accept your claim that said people do not exist.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Where did that come from? Cheering on a sports team is hardly the same thing as getting dressed, going to place of worship and performing rituals. Think about the drinking of the blood and eating of the body/spirit.
    Hey, you claimed that all ritual was pagan.

    If that's true then even brushing your teeth at regaler times is pagan.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

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    Thanks.. But No Thanks! Next time you want me to read a linky? Try to find an unbiased source
    This isn't exactly a True Debate, or even a heavy topic.

    My source is authoritative on the topic and the refrences it gives in it's argument are independently verifiable.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Religious snobbery at its very best.

    More people have died in the name of religion(s) than anything else so spare me this crap about how more religion is better for society
    If the people who died needed to be killed, then that's good for society

    People dying per-se is not automatically bad. It all depends on what they were fighting for and why they died.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't consider a special interest group fishing for artificial victims and creating a spectical when no damage actually occurred to be the same as a genuine public shift of opinion.

    I encounter people who want to see the public domain stripped clean of religion to often to accept your claim that said people do not exist.
    I kinda wish you'd read what I write. There is a genuine public shift of opinion to more inclusion. Christianity doesn't enjoy the same amount of prestige and monopoly it once did. There are individuals who go further, as I clearly stated before. That's not the whole, that's individuals. I did not claim they didn't exist, I clearly said you can find them on the individual level. Those words were right there in the text I wrote down. Their actions, however, are not part of the whole nor does it reflect on the aggregate shift of public opinion towards more inclusive views of differing religions and displays. That group is specifically exclusive, but the are not the majority and are not representative of what I was talking about. Again, it was clearly written in the post you quoted.

    Your hyperbole and...well outright lie that I claim they don't exist...I don't know where you get off trying to make claims which were so obviously and blatantly false. Nor as to how it would accomplish any goal in the debate for you to have severely and (for I can think of no other reason) purposefully misrepresent what I had written. Especially in relation to that specific quote as your lie and misrepresentation does not seem to accomplish anything to further even your side of the debate.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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