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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogger807 View Post
    Why must we respect the christian religion on a pagan holiday ?

    So what if it's become traditional in the last century ..traditions stolen from an older culture I might add.
    you do realize atheism is different from paganism?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    you do realize atheism is different from paganism?
    Huh, just what do you mean?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    ...since the Silenced Majority always has to educate you people...

    CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Christmas

    Do yourselves a favor and read deeply in to the history of the French Revolution and then realize the direction you "enlightened" ones are dragging the Republic.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    I never said they did... I was just pointing out the hypocrisy here.
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    It's become very apparent that there is nothing respectable about faith
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Has anyone considered the possibility that these guys stole their own sign just to be able to make a big deal out of it? That's what it smells like to me.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    Nah but it does make things fun
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari
    pew pew pew

    Take that Christmas!

    Heheh.
    Hahaha!

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The holiday was NOT stolen from pagans.
    This outta be good.

    The first known celebrations of a feast for Christ date to Christians in Egypt around A.D. 200. The current date of December 25 has been used since the middle of the fourth century, before Christianity became widespread in Northern EUrope. The date is traditional as it is nine months after the Annunciation to the Virgin Mary, which is celebrated on March 25.
    So it just happened to be around the time that Pagans had been celebrating their religious holidays for thousands of years? It just happened that the RCC enrishened that date and adopted the numerous pagan rituals as part of the holiday?

    If it wasn't stolen, why did it jack dozens of Pagan rituals? The accepted argument is that the RCC trying to get the hordes of Pagans after the fall of Rome to convert took the holiday along with the rituals as their own to further the conversion into Catholicism.

    "It's a Christian Holiday and always was never mind that we celebrate it on the day and time that Pagans had their own for thousands of years before the Israelite and we celebrate in Pagan ways!"

    You're going to have to do better then that.

    As for the actual date of Christ's birth, that is unknown and scholars are not universally opposed to the December date. The Census took place at a time when field labor was suspended, and that could only have happened in the winter.
    Read about what the Shepards were wearing.

    It is the PURPOSE of the celebration that IS important.
    See the rest of my post about that.

    The Puritans banned the holiday. What does that tell you about the purpose?
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    This outta be good.
    Quick Wiki search gave me this:

    A winter festival was the most popular festival of the year in many cultures. Reasons included the fact that less agricultural work needs to be done during the winter, as well as people expecting longer days and shorter nights after the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.[17] Modern Christmas customs include: gift-giving and merrymaking from Roman Saturnalia; greenery, lights, and charity from the Roman New Year; and Yule logs and various foods from Teutonic feasts.[18] Scandinavians still call Christmas Pagan Scandinavia celebrated a winter festival called Yule, held in the late December to early January period. As Northern Europe was the last part to Christianize, its pagan traditions had a major influence on Christmas.Jul. In English, the word Yule is synonymous with Christmas,[19] a usage first recorded in 900.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Quick Wiki search gave me this:
    The use of the date December 25 predates by CENTURIES the celebration of Christmas in northern Europe. Many of those "traditions" weren't introduced until centuries later and are not universally observed by Christians. They are cultural, NOT religious.
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