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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How is anything proof of anything?
    Ah, so you are going to try and turn it into that type of an argument.

    Perhaps you could answer my question, though. How is the Bible proof of anything? If you have faith it certainly is, but that argument doesn't exactly work for someone who doesn't subscribe to that belief system. So, I'll ask again; how is the Bible proof of anything?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Personally I think the whole separation of church and state thing is a pointless argument. Since Christianity is the majority religion in this country, it will continue to win out over other religions for a long time. Honestly, I'm just glad that we have freedom of religion in this country and are able to celebrate our own individual religions whatever they be. When I see a nativity scene at a government building, I don't think of it as evil or really that big of a deal. It annoys me because I think there should be a clear separation of church and state. However, that's my opinion and I'm more than welcome to express it just as others are more than welcome to defend such a thing. However, I must say that the Christians should get used to this kind of opposition from people as long as they continue to monopolize the limelight. I feel no sympathy for them at all. It's the cost of living in a country where we have freedom of religion and freedom of speech.
    Then why don't atheists just say we don't believe in any gods, instead of ridiculing Christianity, Islam and Judaism? That sign was not a statement of their personal belief, but a statement of the their disbelief in another's religion. That is a freedom of speech issue, and not a freedom of religion issue.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Ah, so you are going to try and turn it into that type of an argument.

    Perhaps you could answer my question, though. How is the Bible proof of anything? If you have faith it certainly is, but that argument doesn't exactly work for someone who doesn't subscribe to that belief system. So, I'll ask again; how is the Bible proof of anything?
    Perhaps you could answer the original challenge and prove the existence of evil. Let's see your attempt.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

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    I thought Athiests did not believe in evil?
    Why did you change the name in that quote to say my name, even though it was Slippery Slope who said it?
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then why don't atheists just say we don't believe in any gods, instead of ridiculing Christianity, Islam and Judaism? That sign was not a statement of their personal belief, but a statement of the their disbelief in another's religion. That is a freedom of speech issue, and not a freedom of religion issue.
    Because there are Atheists out there who are just as arrogant and pushy as some Christian fundamentalists out there. There are Atheists who just can't deal with the fact that there are people out there who believe in a higher power. Though I will say this. It's not as if all Christians keep to themselves about their religion. A lot of them try to shove it onto others and this annoys a lot of people, myself included. Personally I found the sign by the Atheists to be bitter and arrogant. It's not as if the Christian Nativity scene was meant to really stick it to Atheists or any other specific belief system, so I believe it was an unwarranted attack. However, if there had been a non-attacking Atheist display or other non-Christian display that was put up next to the Nativity scene I think this would still be an issue for some.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm Catholic, but don't hold grudges against other beliefs, this one makes me sick though. I think the Athiest and Nihalist movements forget one thing, absence of belief is still belief.
    Militantly being an Atheist always struck me as a contradiction.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Perhaps you could answer the original challenge and prove the existence of evil. Let's see your attempt.
    I don't believe in the existence evil as I have stated in other threads.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    Militantly being an Atheist always struck me as a contradiction.
    Well, the fact that some Atheists use similar tactics to those whom they oppose makes them look hypocritical.

    I used to run a Satanism chat room years ago and we would get tons of Christians coming in and attacking us or questioning us, which is to be expected. A lot of the time they would come in and say "JESUS LOVES YOU!" and leave right away. We called them "drive-by blessings." Anyway, a lot of the non-Christian people who would come in would want us to go to their rooms and attack them. And I never understood why anyone would want to do that. I think that if you are going to try and hold yourself to a higher standard than those whom you oppose, you shouldn't engage in their idiotic tactics. To do the same really makes you no better than they are.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Wow! That's the best you've got? You're further gone than I thought. Merry Christmas!
    You need to learn to properly quote others' posts.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post

    I used to run a Satanism chat room years ago
    Why would you run a Satanism chat room if you don't believe in the existence of evil?

    Do you mean you don't believe in evil as a presence, or that there is no such thing as evil deeds at all?

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