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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I know exactly what you mean. At least the commercials are good for a bit of a laugh.
    It's high comedy, I completely agree.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Are you sure about that? Why then does Bill O'Reilly have his yearly War On Christmas special?
    Is that an expression of being offended?

    Why do people get offended when they are told Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas?
    Do they? You haven't established this, yet.

    Which is paranoia and nothing more. Christianity will most likely never be eliminated from the public square considering that a majority of people in this country are Christian. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
    Despite the Ten Commandmants bieng removed by court order, banning school prayer, manger/stable displays being ordered removed, public universities banning Christmas displays because it's "ethnically insensitive," etc. Yeah, figments of our imaginations, eh?

    Actually, yes it is about a holiday greeting.
    I know the issue is motivated by the holiday greeting being altered. But people like me are not arguing about how to greet others. People like me are citing this as another example of a war against Christianity in the public square.

    You take issue with people saying Happy Holidays because you perceive it to purely be about being PC and that simply isn't true.
    It's not true?

    The only argument for doing it is to be more inclusive. But a clear majority of Americans believe it's not more inclusive and prefer Merry Christmas.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Do they? You haven't established this, yet.
    I've spoken to people who get offended by it. I'm sure that they aren't alone in that. You've already made it clear that you object to it only because you perceive it to be purely for PC reasons.

    Despite the Ten Commandmants bieng removed by court order, banning school prayer, manger/stable displays being ordered removed, public universities banning Christmas displays because it's "ethnically insensitive," etc. Yeah, figments of our imaginations, eh?
    So what? Those things shouldn't exist in the public arena anyway. Just because they want to remove it doesn't mean that they are trying to eradicate it completely. That's an absurd and paranoid notion.

    I know the issue is motivated by the holiday greeting being altered. But people like me are not arguing about how to greet others. People like me are citing this as another example of a war against Christianity in the public square.
    Which is completely absurd and paranoid.

    It's not true?

    The only argument for doing it is to be more inclusive. But a clear majority of Americans believe it's not more inclusive and prefer Merry Christmas.
    No, it isn't true. For some that is a large part of the reason, as proven by your story about banning Merry Christmas. However, those people don't speak for every single person who takes issue with this.

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    If Jesus was not born on December 25 what solid basis is there for celebrating his birth on December 25 other then to convert Roman pagans (who already celebrated the birth of Mithra (the unconquered sun) on December 25)?
    Nine months after the Annunciation

    The below seems like an assertion to me.
    Then you are not very good at reading posts in full context.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    That's the stupidity of multiculturalist thinking.

    Christmas is the Christian holiday. Wishing someone a "Merry Christmas" who is not a Christian is explicitly including them in the Christian holiday.
    I live in a non-Christian country and people wish others Merry Christmas here all the time around December 25, especially in urban areas. It is celebrated in schools all over the country and many families exchange gifts. Most people here are Buddhist-Daoist. This claptrap about how the holiday does not include non-Christians is a load of crap.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Why do they feel the need to do so, though? You don't see other non-Christian religions doing this. With all of the demonizing that people have done to Islam, you'd think they'd be doing it, but they don't. It's because Christians have a "good guy" badge and feel the need to save and convert everyone.
    No, Muslims just bomb and kill you if you don't convert.

    Seriously, looking at the history of CONQUEST that Muslims engaged in for the purpose of converting people, making this comparison is not the best to make.

    Islam is also a missionary religion. They don't go door to door in the US because it is too dangerous to do so. I am no fan of the ignorance of Mormons and JWs. Once, a Mormon missionary called me a "Mary Worshipper." I slammed the door in his face. (not saying this was the best reaction, but I was already annoyed because he knocked on my door while I was watching a US-Mexico World Cup qualifying match.)
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I was going to make a point about this and totally forgot, thanks for the post and reminding me of that. I think people of other faiths take "Merry Christmas" the wrong way, to explain this a little further, it is christian to include, regardless of difference in celebration, I think some in our society take offense because they see our well wishes as an assumption of their faith, which couldn't be further from the truth as most christians go. Simply put, Merry Christmas is nothing more than the sharing of love and best wishes during the celebration.
    Exactly. The Christmas Eve mass where I go to church always has as many non-Catholics as it does Catholics. They are always welcome to join us and celebrate with us. This is not EXCLUSIVE, but rather it is INCLUSIVE. I assume most mainstream Protestestant sects are the same.
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    No, Muslims just bomb and kill you if you don't convert.
    Funny my Muslim neighbors haven't tried to kill me since I don't convert. Generalize much?

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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Funny my Muslim neighbors haven't tried to kill me since I don't convert. Generalize much?
    How many muslim neighbors do you have, and how close do they live?
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    Re: Atheists take aim at Christmas

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    How many muslim neighbors do you have, and how close do they live?
    Not close enough to remove the "ignorance blanket" thrown over our country's head by Dubya.
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