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    Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

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    December 2, 2008

    Catherine Philp in Washington

    Iran poses the greatest foreign policy challenge to the new president with Tehran on course to produce a nuclear bomb in the first year of an Obama administration, an unprecedented coalition of top think tanks warned yesterday.
    Barack Obama must follow through on his promises of direct talks with Tehran and engage the Middle East region as a whole if he is to halt a looming crisis that could be revisited on the United States, the experts warned.
    “Diplomacy is not guaranteed to work: it is not,” Richard Hass, one of the authors said. “But the other options – military action or living with an Iranian weapon are sufficiently unattractive for it to warrant serious commitment.”
    The warnings came in a report called “Restoring the Balance,” a Middle East strategy for the incoming president drafted by the Council for Foreign Relations and the Brookings Institution. Gary Samore, one of the authors, said the level of alarm over the “hornet’s nest” facing the new president in the Middle East, and the need for the swift adoption of previously untested approach, had inspired the unprecedented decision to write policy for him. “New administrations can choose new policies but they can’t choose next contexts,” Mr. Samore said. “This is what they inherit.”
    I guess Biden was right, but it's easy to predict the likely.
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

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    I guess Biden was right, but it's easy to predict the likely.
    "Diplomacy is not guaranteed to work" Say it aint so!!!

    You still don't get it do you American; this is OBAMA we're talking about. The smoothest talking, smartest thinking, slickest politician this side of the Mississippi. The mere mention of his name causes despots like Ahmendinejad to quake with fear.

    You infidels still don't get it; Obama is the BOMB man!

    Obama ==> <===Ahmandinijad

    Get it? Carry on.

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

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    I guess Biden was right, but it's easy to predict the likely.
    Absolutely right. Sadly, at this point I think we may be too late for diplomacy to work. I'm not saying that we should go to war with Iran, but I don't hold out too much hope for Iran abandoning its nuclear program at this point.

    In all likelihood, I think we're just going to have to learn to live with Iranian nukes.
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    I think US along with EU should use its leverage and influence to strike a deal with Iran.
    Force Israel to remove its Nukes and Iran will have no reason for it as no one in that region will have those weapons anymore.

    Or second option, we just accept Iran will have nukes.


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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I think US along with EU should use its leverage and influence to strike a deal with Iran.
    Force Israel to remove its Nukes and Iran will have no reason for it as no one in that region will have those weapons anymore.

    Or second option, we just accept Iran will have nukes.
    There is a third option. We give Israel the go ahead to make strategic strikes against all of their known nuclear facilities and then we back them up if Iran is stupid enough to try to go to war over it.

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I think US along with EU should use its leverage and influence to strike a deal with Iran.
    Force Israel to remove its Nukes and Iran will have no reason for it as no one in that region will have those weapons anymore.

    Or second option, we just accept Iran will have nukes.
    That would be an excellent deal if it could work...unfortunately, neither Israel nor Iran would agree to it in a million years.
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    In this area as in most others, obama has NO idea what he's doing. He'll just follow the advice of his appeaser staff, and disaster will reign in the middle east. (Anyone care to make a bet about that?) Of course, when it happens, obama's Kindergarten Krew will just say "It's Bush's fault!"

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    There is a third option. We give Israel the go ahead to make strategic strikes against all of their known nuclear facilities and then we back them up if Iran is stupid enough to try to go to war over it.
    Wouldn't work. Geography makes this plan unfeasible; Iran is simply too big and too distant from Israel. Israel simply does not have the military capability of taking out Iran's nuclear program. For that matter, neither does the United States (short of a full-scale invasion). We don't even know where all of Iran's nuclear sites are.

    Also, what do you mean by "we back them up"? Invade and occupy Iran?
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I think US along with EU should use its leverage and influence to strike a deal with Iran.
    Force Israel to remove its Nukes and Iran will have no reason for it as no one in that region will have those weapons anymore.

    Or second option, we just accept Iran will have nukes.

    Or third option we unleash our Israeli pitbull and have them blow the **** out of the Mullah mother ****ers!!!

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Wouldn't work. Geography makes this plan unfeasible; Iran is simply too big and too distant from Israel. Israel simply does not have the military capability of taking out Iran's nuclear program. For that matter, neither does the United States (short of a full-scale invasion). We don't even know where all of Iran's nuclear sites are.

    Also, what do you mean by "we back them up"? Invade and occupy Iran?
    I think between us and Israel we could put a serious dent in Iran's nuclear ambitions.

    And I mean we defend Israel against invasion by Iran. But yeah, invade and occupy Iran works for me, too.

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