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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think between us and Israel we could put a serious dent in Iran's nuclear ambitions.
    Mostly just us. Not Israel. And it would come at quite a steep price.

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    And I mean we defend Israel against invasion by Iran.
    Iran couldn't invade Israel any more than Israel could destroy Iran's nuclear program. Neither of them have the military might for that sort of thing.

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    But yeah, invade and occupy Iran works for me, too.
    With what forces? And at what cost to American power and geopolitical capital? Our military is stretched beyond the breaking point as it is. And neither the American public nor our allies have the stomach for another preemptive war.

    American power is not infinite.
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by jin1776 View Post
    Or third option we unleash our Israeli pitbull and have them blow the **** out of the Mullah mother ****ers!!!
    LOL
    And US risk its oil intake?
    Yeah right.
    Republican or Democrat in office, they will not risk it.

    Unleash Israel, don't bitch when the region goes down and terrorism increases a million times over. It'll be American troops and money that will be used, not Israeli or Arab

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That would be an excellent deal if it could work...unfortunately, neither Israel nor Iran would agree to it in a million years.
    Sadly yes.
    If we remove Israel's Nukes. No one can accuse US of being hypocritical but as long as another country within Middle East has Nukes. Then Iran, like it or not has a legitimitate reason to also want access to those weapons.

    Im not happy with Israel having Nukes.
    I do not want anyone in Middle East to have it. But i want a ME country to neutralize Israel, if they want to continue having Nukes.

    Israel has US who has God knows how many weapons, that should be enough.
    Nucleur Iran will be inevitable otherwise and we all should start getting used to that idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    But yeah, invade and occupy Iran works for me, too.
    US with the help of coalition cannot even invade and occupy and deal with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Iran will be impossible. I suggest you get rid of that notion, unless every American male is forced into the miltary, where are you supposed to get the troops from?
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

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    I guess Biden was right, but it's easy to predict the likely.
    Clinton warned Bush about AQ and OBL and look what he did with that info.

    Watch how Obama treats intelligence in an "intelligent" manner.

    You gonna like the difference. I guarantee it!
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Clinton warned Bush about AQ and OBL and look what he did with that info.

    Watch how Obama treats intelligence in an "intelligent" manner.

    You gonna like the difference. I guarantee it!



    Yes look at how clinton "treated that info".....
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    LOL
    And US risk its oil intake?
    Yeah right.
    Republican or Democrat in office, they will not risk it.
    We don't get a drop of our oil from Iran and haven't since the Iranian revolution. And FYI Iran is completely reliant on refined oil imports.


    Nucleur Iran will be inevitable otherwise and we all should start getting used to that idea.
    It won't be allowed to happen, we will destroy that country 100 times over before we allow for a nuclear armed terror state.

    US with the help of coalition cannot even invade and occupy and deal with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Iraq wars over, Afghanistan will be done shortly once the battle hardened Iraq war vets are redeployed to secure the border region. And don't forget we overthrew both governments with some of the smallest casualty figures in the history of warfare. We push a single button and Iran's economy is completely destroyed and I'm not talking about a nuke I'm talking about a single missile destroying their loan oil refinery, just think about that for a second.

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Clinton warned Bush about AQ and OBL and look what he did with that info.

    Watch how Obama treats intelligence in an "intelligent" manner.

    You gonna like the difference. I guarantee it!
    I just can't wait....too bad he can't just take over NOW huh?

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    The removal of the Iranian government is also an option. While the US military probably couldn't handle another war of occupation and attrittion, it could definitely dismantle a government.
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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    US with the help of coalition cannot even invade and occupy and deal with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Iran will be impossible. I suggest you get rid of that notion, unless every American male is forced into the miltary, where are you supposed to get the troops from?
    I suggest you get rid of the notion that the US can or won't accomplish a goal it sets out to accomplish. Besides, who says we really need to fight the war on the ground? Round the clock air raids for a couple of weeks would go a long way toward breaking the will of the Iranian government.

    I'm over the nonsense. If Iran won't play nice with the rest of the world, there is no reason to play nice with Iran. It would seem to me that if there are these mythical moderate Muslims who decry the violence, then they would be standing up for the cause of removing the craziest extremist country threatening the world right now and making Muslims look bad.

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I suggest you get rid of the notion that the US can or won't accomplish a goal it sets out to accomplish. Besides, who says we really need to fight the war on the ground? Round the clock air raids for a couple of weeks would go a long way toward breaking the will of the Iranian government.

    I'm over the nonsense. If Iran won't play nice with the rest of the world, there is no reason to play nice with Iran. It would seem to me that if there are these mythical moderate Muslims who decry the violence, then they would be standing up for the cause of removing the craziest extremist country threatening the world right now and making Muslims look bad.
    She is a supposed "moderate Muslim" just like Ahmed, the only problem is they both support Hezbollah.

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    Re: Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Wouldn't work. Geography makes this plan unfeasible; Iran is simply too big and too distant from Israel. Israel simply does not have the military capability of taking out Iran's nuclear program. For that matter, neither does the United States (short of a full-scale invasion). We don't even know where all of Iran's nuclear sites are.

    Also, what do you mean by "we back them up"? Invade and occupy Iran?
    You have proof we don't know where the nuke sites are?
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