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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    And thats the irony of the whole situation. Surely to get rid of Chavez you would have to liberate venuzuleans from the tyranny of their right to vote for who they wish to and put someone in power who they dont want. Surely that person would be a dictator. I challenge you to carefully study, General Pinochet and Carlos Castillo Armas,
    No, Dave, that is wrong. That is typical liberal bull****. I merely suggested that the next Hitler be stopped before he starts. We are not talking about taking away anybodys rights.

    We're talking about stopping the world's next Hitler.

    For the record, Pinochet was a military dictator resposible for the deaths of thousands of people.... INCLUDING a few Americans who had the misfortune to be in his country during one of his "purges".

    It's interesting that you would use a scumbag like Pinochet as an example. Blindness like yours led to the Nazi occupation of most of Europe during WWII. You really need to open your eyes and take a good look at history.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    It's not nonsense. You're just unwilling to see the threat he posses. This is your failing not mine.

    When Chavez becomes the next Hitler you will be proven wrong and your blindess will be proven.

    I suggest you open your eyes and look at the big picture.
    And I suggest you drop your paranoia. Hitler's situation is entirely different than this one. The fact you are trying to compare the two is ludicrous.

    What has Chavez done to suggest he is the next Hitler? Is he wanting a master race? Is he doing experimentation on people?

    The only thing you have is your hatred for Chavez because he is a socialist.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    We're talking about stopping the world's next Hitler.
    No we're not, you're really bordering on hysteria here mate.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And I suggest you drop your paranoia. Hitler's situation is entirely different than this one. The fact you are trying to compare the two is ludicrous.

    What has Chavez done to suggest he is the next Hitler? Is he wanting a master race? Is he doing experimentation on people?

    The only thing you have is your hatred for Chavez because he is a socialist.
    Chavez is seeking absolute power EXACTLY LIKE HITLER DID. Open your eyes and see the big picture.

    Also ... Hitler didn't experiment on ANYBODY.... Josef Mengele did ... If you're going to quote history, have the class to quote it correctly.

    The only ludicrous thing I see here is your absolute blind support for a would-be dictator.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    No we're not, you're really bordering on hysteria here mate.
    Maybe so, but I would rarther be a little hysterical if it means I do not have to leacture my children on a genocidal dictator who could've been stopped before he got started.

    The bottom line is this: I do not want to see another holocaust occur because some people were to blind to see it.


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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Maybe so, but I would rarther be a little hysterical if it means I do not have to leacture my children on a genocidal dictator who could've been stopped before he got started.

    The bottom line is this: I do not want to see another holocaust occur because some people were to blind to see it.

    Are you actually being serious? Which people is he going to have a genocide against?

    Chavez sucks(so does Gordan Brown though of course as does Bush.)
    but he is not much of threat at the moment and certainly not even worth the dangers to liberty and security of most non-military interventions at the moment.
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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Are you actually being serious? Which people is he going to have a genocide against?

    Chavez sucks(so does Gordan Brown though of course as does Bush.)
    but he is not much of threat at the moment and certainly not even worth the dangers to liberty and security of most non-military interventions at the moment.
    I agree with your assessment regarding the current world leadership; however, I believe that Chavez WILL kill ANYBODY who gets in his way. The same way General Penochet did many years ago in his own country.

    I think seeking to eliminate term limits is a sign of a dictator in the making. I find this unacceptable and I think Chavez, who is allied with Iran, needs to be delt with before he causes any real trouble.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Chavez is seeking absolute power EXACTLY LIKE HITLER DID. Open your eyes and see the big picture.

    Also ... Hitler didn't experiment on ANYBODY.... Josef Mengele did ... If you're going to quote history, have the class to quote it correctly.

    The only ludicrous thing I see here is your absolute blind support for a would-be dictator.
    LOL yes, I support Chavez because I don't want to go in there or sanction him. Gimme a break, do you always debate this terrible or make generalizations just because I believe your logic is flawed terribly? Just because I don't want to go in there and kill the guy or put sanctions on him doesn't me I support him. I support the right of the people in his country to vote how they want.

    Sorry but Hitler had his opposition killed. Chavez has done nothing of the sort. I see you resort to insults when people do not agree with you.

    Your hatred for Chavez is clearly your primary motivation and not facts. There is no comparison with Hitler that can be made.

    Again, I am thankful noone with any power agrees with you. Carry on with your paranoia ranting.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I believe that Chavez WILL kill ANYBODY who gets in his way.
    Sorry but your "belief" is not reason to kick Chavez out. Many in the world "believed" Bush was the next Hitler, I guess you support those people attacking the U.S. right?

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    No, Dave, that is wrong. That is typical liberal bull****. I merely suggested that the next Hitler be stopped before he starts. We are not talking about taking away anybodys rights.

    We're talking about stopping the world's next Hitler.

    For the record, Pinochet was a military dictator resposible for the deaths of thousands of people.... INCLUDING a few Americans who had the misfortune to be in his country during one of his "purges".

    It's interesting that you would use a scumbag like Pinochet as an example. Blindness like yours led to the Nazi occupation of most of Europe during WWII. You really need to open your eyes and take a good look at history.
    When did i endorse Pinochet? Try reading my posts. My point was that replaceing Chavez with someone the Venuzuelans didnt want to be there leader would be like what Pinochet and Carlos Armas did. by saying that the leader that the Venuzuleans elected 8 times should be taken away you are by definition, depriveing them of their right to vote for they want. Thus enstalling someone they did not want to in power i.e a dictator. This is exactly how the dictators i mentioned came to power, and many others like them. These leaders killed tens of thousands of people because people like you thought it was acceptable overide the decisions of foriegn electorates over how to run their own countrys. Yet im being painted as some sort of monster for saying people should be able to choose whatever leader they wish
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