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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    So, your response to the news that a person is trying to make himself dictator is: "well, there are worse leaders out there, so why care"? and somehow, we are to agree with you and say: "Chavez is a good person and he only means well to us and his people, and I'm sure he will do anything he can to benefit democracy and spread freedom, because he is on OUR side!"

    Excuse me but, isn't that logic kind of...aherm...flawed?
    How can someone make himself a dictator when he will be staying in office because democratically people will be voting to allow it.

    The simple answer is for people to vote against it.

    Sorry just because you hate the guy doesn't mean he is a dictator.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How can someone make himself a dictator when he will be staying in office because democratically people will be voting to allow it.

    The simple answer is for people to vote against it.

    Sorry just because you hate the guy doesn't mean he is a dictator.
    So, Hitler wasn't a dictator?

    I mean, he got into power the same way and, all the historians I've seen on TV about him say he is a dictator so, are you saying you're smarter than them?
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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    So, Hitler wasn't a dictator?
    Hitler BECAME a dictator, but when the people voted him in, no he wasn't. It was his actions AFTERWARD.

    Hitler had most of his opposition assassinated.

    Tell me what has Chavez done along those lines? Oh yeah, pissed off some people in the U.S.

    Sorry, but no, Chavez is not a dictator.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I guess you missed the part where he is attempting to amend their constitution. He already tried once and failed; what’s new this time around? Is he going to use force or intimidation?

    CARACAS, Venezuela – President Hugo Chavez asked supporters Sunday to petition for a constitutional amendment that would let him seek indefinite re-election and buy more time to build a socialist economy in Venezuela.

    "Last year, when we lost the referendum, I said I should accept the majority's decision," the former paratroop commander told a crowd of red-clad government supporters at a rally in Caracas. But now, he added, "I say you were right: Chavez will not go."


    I could just see the angry ranting in this country had Bush even suggested such an amendment in his first term, then again in the second term. I guess its okay for Democracies that you are not living under right?
    I guess you ignored the part where he held a referendum and is going to hold another one? He may be a fool but he's not a dictator. He still gets criticised in the media and even if his term limits are abolished and the constitution amended he can still lose his power. If the people vote for it, and they've rejected it in the past, there is no reason to doubt their decision. The democratic process will have been followed.

    It doesn't matter what democracy I live under, the fact is if the democratic process is followed there is little you can complain about.
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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    I would love to hear your reasoning on how having term limits in one's constitution is undemocratic.
    Because it puts an arbitrary limitation on the freedom of the people to elect whom they please...

    It's pretty simple to understand.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again
    • By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER, Associated Press Writer Christopher Toothaker, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 19 mins ago
    Reuters – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez attends a swearing-in ceremony of new Caracas' Mayor Jorge Rodriguez …



    CARACAS, Venezuela – President Hugo Chavez asked supporters Sunday to petition for a constitutional


    Full Article: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again - Yahoo! News


    I think it's high time this dictatorial asshole got delt with.

    I am tired of him trying to appoint himself dictator.

    It's time for his removal from power.
    Does he? I heard very good news from you, thanks.

    It is a fact that oil companies from Venezuela, directed by Chavez- do indeed help to the poor people of US who can't pay their heating/untility bills...I think Chavez must stay in power because here, even president Bush had not such a great iniciative...

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I guess you have no problem with Saudi Arabia, Iran, or North Korea's leadership right? Like I said, there are far bigger fish to fry before Chavez that is for sure.
    I suggest you carefully read my posts in other threads. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    I want Iran's government deposed and imprisoned. Same for the others.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    Does he? I heard very good news from you, thanks.

    It is a fact that oil companies from Venezuela, directed by Chavez- do indeed help to the poor people of US who can't pay their heating/untility bills...I think Chavez must stay in power because here, even president Bush had not such a great iniciative...

    Interesting opinion. I do not agree. Nobody who seeks to be the emperor of given territory should be in power over it.

    Power corrupts ... absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    Pause and consider this wisdom.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Hitler BECAME a dictator, but when the people voted him in, no he wasn't. It was his actions AFTERWARD.

    Hitler had most of his opposition assassinated.

    Tell me what has Chavez done along those lines? Oh yeah, pissed off some people in the U.S.

    Sorry, but no, Chavez is not a dictator.
    He's trying very hard to become one. Blindness like yours only furthers his quest.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Term limits are undemocratic.
    Maybe in Islamic countries ... but in the civilized world we use term limits to prevent corruption.

    I realize in islamic countries the corruption is the government; however, what I said applies.

    Term limits make long term corruption impossible.

    Politicians and Islamic governments are like diapers and they must be changed often... and for the same reason.

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