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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    lol at comparing chavez to hitler smoke crack less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Talk View Post
    lol at comparing chavez to hitler smoke crack less.
    Oh shut up. Your anti-freedom position has already been noted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well Hitler is a different kettle of fish because it was obvious he was going to be trouble due to his expanisionist idealogy. I think we should have taken him and Mussolini on when they were bombing Madrid during the Spannish Civil War but we didnt because they were killing socialists, so that was ok. The idealogy of Chavez is more a reaction to american intervention [which has undeniably been very damaging to Latin America] then one that seeks to control other countrys. Anyway you still havent explained how you plan to remove him without imposing a dictatorship.
    I have revised my position on that actually. I think Chavez needs to be watched and that he needs to be continually squeezed until his ties with Russia and Iran are broken.

    Also ... the people of Venezuela elected a President for defined period of time. Adolf Chavez seeks to maintain permenant power. This is not the behavior of an elected official; it is that of a dictator on the rise.

    Moreover, Chavez has ties the terrorist government of Iran and a wanna be Czar asshole in Russia. Putinazi is almost as bad as Aminijackoff.

    I suppose I would rather cut the head off the snake before it strikes then wait to see if the snake intends to strike. This is just me being cautious.

    I suspect Chavez will end up with as much blood on his hands as Pinochet had on his before he died a war criminal.

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    Also ... the people of Venezuela elected a President for defined period of time. Adolf Chavez seeks to maintain permenant power. This is not the behavior of an elected official; it is that of a dictator on the rise.
    Many countries don't have term limits on executive positions. I don't see how this comparison is accurate in any way at all; in fact, it's completely delusional.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Many countries don't have term limits on executive positions. I don't see how this comparison is accurate in any way at all; in fact, it's completely delusional.
    True enough for Parliamentary Democracies, but in Presidential Democracies, term limits on the chief executive are rather common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I have revised my position on that actually. I think Chavez needs to be watched and that he needs to be continually squeezed until his ties with Russia and Iran are broken.

    Also ... the people of Venezuela elected a President for defined period of time. Adolf Chavez seeks to maintain permenant power. This is not the behavior of an elected official; it is that of a dictator on the rise.

    Moreover, Chavez has ties the terrorist government of Iran and a wanna be Czar asshole in Russia. Putinazi is almost as bad as Aminijackoff.

    I suppose I would rather cut the head off the snake before it strikes then wait to see if the snake intends to strike. This is just me being cautious.

    I suspect Chavez will end up with as much blood on his hands as Pinochet had on his before he died a war criminal.
    Chavez is seeking changes to the constitution that would bring it into line with the governmental system in the UK, which has survived, (despite its many other problems) without a dictator in its recent history.

    Again the comparison of Chavez to Hitler is basically laughable, and for the record:

    "Chileans still remember that in the 1973 “regime change” in their country, the U.S. government played an active role in ousting their democratically elected president because he was a socialist and replacing him with a brutal military dictator, Augusto Pinochet, who ended up ruling Chile for almost two decades, until 1990."

    U.S. Regime Change, Torture, and Murder in Chile

    it seems that Cahvez is the type of person who was ousted by the USA and replaced by Pinochet.

    I would stongly advise that you read the book, The Open Veins of Latin america, by (i belive) Eduardo Galleano, before making sweeping claims about knowing whats best for South Americans states.

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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by cheat3 View Post
    Chavez is seeking changes to the constitution that would bring it into line with the governmental system in the UK, which has survived, (despite its many other problems) without a dictator in its recent history.

    Again the comparison of Chavez to Hitler is basically laughable, and for the record:

    "Chileans still remember that in the 1973 “regime change” in their country, the U.S. government played an active role in ousting their democratically elected president because he was a socialist and replacing him with a brutal military dictator, Augusto Pinochet, who ended up ruling Chile for almost two decades, until 1990."

    U.S. Regime Change, Torture, and Murder in Chile

    it seems that Cahvez is the type of person who was ousted by the USA and replaced by Pinochet.

    I would stongly advise that you read the book, The Open Veins of Latin america, by (i belive) Eduardo Galleano, before making sweeping claims about knowing whats best for South Americans states.
    The alleged role of the US and the CIA in the ouster of Allende is a matter of considerable dispute. Citing extreme leftist websites that have no credibility is not going to contribute anything to a discussion on the subject.
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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The alleged role of the US and the CIA in the ouster of Allende is a matter of considerable dispute. Citing extreme leftist websites that have no credibility is not going to contribute anything to a discussion on the subject.
    isn't fff libertarian?

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    isn't fff libertarian?
    Don't know. Just read a couple of article on the front page and it looked pretty liberal to me. I haven't looked at it in depth though - you may be right.
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    Re: Chavez seeks indefinite re-election, again

    It's only controversial to those who are blatant deniers of history. If you read any basic history on South American political science from 1950-2000, several countries there are fraught with U.S. entanglement. Brazil in the 60's is one such example.

    Also, from what I learned while I was living in Brazil, the leader that was toppled also wanted to reduce economic relations with the U.S., particularly in the sugar and coffee industries. This contributed to U.S. support for the coup d'état, since Brazil is a major exporter to the U.S.

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