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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    How much deeper would that be? huh? Every ****ing day extremist are killing somebody in the world and the peaceful cowards do nothing.
    What exactly are they supposed to do?

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    What exactly are they supposed to do?
    Haven't you guessed yet?
    We are meant to don hats and go tracking for the Islamists with guns - Nothing else would please the people whining


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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Haven't you guessed yet?
    We are meant to don hats and go tracking for the Islamists with guns - Nothing else would please the people whining
    I just get sick of the lame talking point about how peaceful Muslims don't speak out against the extremists. That lie has actually turned into a talking point that people regurgitate over and over and over again. All it takes is a quick little trip to google to find out how completely false those claims are.

    So considering that they already speak out against this stuff, what else are they supposed to do? Why would anyone assume that peaceful Muslims have the same resources that the military does or that they would somehow fair better against the extremists?

    Personally, I don't even think that they should have to speak out against terrorism. I think that it should be blatantly obvious to anyone that the peaceful Muslims don't share views with the extremists and therefore shouldn't be associated to make judging Muslims as a whole more convenient for people.
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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

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    What about Iraq? No moral right to attack.
    Simply False. The No-Fly resolution violations gave us legal Casus Belli the first year after desert storm. Add to that that we caught Saddam red handed trying to fund the assassination of Bush Sr. Saddams payment to an assassin in Dubai was intercepted and proven, and that, right there and by itself, is reason for us to knock over the whole country.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    So considering that they already speak out against this stuff, what else are they supposed to do? Why would anyone assume that peaceful Muslims have the same resources that the military does or that they would somehow fair better against the extremists?

    Personally, I don't even think that they should have to speak out against terrorism. I think that it should be blatantly obvious to anyone that the peaceful Muslims don't share views with the extremists and therefore shouldn't be associated to make judging Muslims as a whole more convenient for people.
    I agree but people won't quit the 'muslims don't condemn nothing'
    I have no idea how they expect normal muslims like me to do something the US and UK miltary has failed to do. Its ridiculous.

    I have no military experience and im freaked out by guns yet somehow im meant to stand up to people who are capable of killing innocent people and blowing themselves up ;'S


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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I agree but people won't quit the 'muslims don't condemn nothing'
    I have no idea how they expect normal muslims like me to do something the US and UK miltary has failed to do. Its ridiculous.
    Unfortunately, ignorance will always exist.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Unfortunately, ignorance will always exist.
    Indeed, its a pity but can't say it gets any less annoying despite the amount of times i hear it


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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I have no idea how they expect normal muslims like me to do something the US and UK miltary has failed to do. Its ridiculous.
    There is no silver-bullet (no pun intended) military method to eradicate radicalism and terrorism. This must come from within. I have always wondered why the huge "moderate" component of Islam is so selective with the power of numbers. Where are the mass Muslim demonstrations demanding an end to Islamic radicalism?

    The disrespectful cartoons about Mohammad ocassioned mass demonstrations by Muslims all across the globe. It's a mystery to me why this same Muslim mass repugnance is absent when Islamists murder over one hundred innocent people right before our very eyes. Why do these two glaring examples of disrespecting Islam result in such vastly different responses from the moderate Muslim world? I haven't a clue.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    12? Try again how about all the support to plan and carry out the attacks?
    How many people around the world have died because of Islam since 9/11?
    This is an excellent point. While I always encourage people to realize that the violent extremists are a minority, there is a very broad support network that either knowingly or unknowingly supports the efforts of the few. Whether it be through monetary donations to radically led mosques, spreading of militant propaganda, allowing safe passage, or simply not speaking up and encouraging a peaceful course of existence.
    Do I blame them all? No But I expect them to retake their religion. Is that too much to ask?
    It's not too much to ask at all. But realistically it's going to take a while.
    But really this is all just talk right? Wait until Pakistan falls to the extremist.
    They have what 10 to 20 small nukes?
    Let's hope there is a plan to "relocate" those nukes in such an event.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I agree but people won't quit the 'muslims don't condemn nothing'
    I have no idea how they expect normal muslims like me to do something the US and UK miltary has failed to do. Its ridiculous.

    I have no military experience and im freaked out by guns yet somehow im meant to stand up to people who are capable of killing innocent people and blowing themselves up ;'S
    You simply do what you are doing now. You refuse to become a part of it. You use your voice to denounce those that are perverting your religion. I'm not asking you to take up arms. I'm just asking you to talk to other Muslims and help reinforce those beliefs that you have with regard to your religion. That's it's one of peace. You need to take a stand vocally and politically. Don't be afraid.
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