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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    You cant pick up a paper with out reading about an Islamic attack, you have a need for more?
    Using the media to understand political affairs is a poor choice in sourcing your education.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Using the media to understand political affairs is a poor choice in sourcing your education.
    How about just pulling the stories off the AP?
    Are you going to tell me next its all made up bs?.......
    How many people have died on the attacks
    You know which and by who...Its been all over the news for a few days now..
    Last edited by cherokee; 11-30-08 at 01:45 AM.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Doesn't make you any more less of a savage for wanting it though. You are no different then the enemy that wants to kill all of us. You want to kill all of them, just as bad.
    Except I have been provoked. Try again.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    How about just pulling the stories off the AP?
    Are you going to tell me next its all made up bs?.......
    How many people have died on the attacks
    You know which and by who...Its been all over the news for a few days now..
    I'm not saying the AP is wrong, ok, so don't twist my words. I am saying that if you want a wholesome education on the root of the current issues in Middle Eastern politics, then you will have to go much deeper than what the newspaper says.

    But you clearly have no interest in the truth, and so I have no interest in you.

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    12? Try again how about all the support to plan and carry out the attacks?
    How many people around the world have died because of Islam since 9/11?

    Do I blame them all? No But I expect them to retake their religion. Is that too much to ask?

    But really this is all just talk right? Wait until Pakistan falls to the extremist.
    They have what 10 to 20 small nukes?
    What support ffs?!
    A few were Sauds. Seems to me US needs to review their allies list.

    How many have died?
    Almost as much as the Iraqis and Afghans caused by the war set in motion by US and UK/Coalition

    And so its my 7th time in asking and still counting!
    How do you expect moderate Muslims to take back Islam?!! Jesus Christ.
    What can i do, a insignificant Muslim out of the 1.2billion against the people with the guns and money?
    If US cannot remove Al Qaeda and extremists in general, the richest and arguably the most powerful country in the world, how do you expect Moderate Muslims to achieve success?
    When the 2 most holiest cities in the world is in the hands of crazy bastards [kept in power by the west through money], how do you expect to top that influence?

    I'll sit here and wait for an answer shall i?

    Pakistan fall into extremism? Meh. Matter of time.
    Instead of being in Iraq, we should have been in Pakistan to begin with but now it is too late.
    If US attacks and invades another Muslim country ... *sigh*
    It will be seen as an attack on Muslims and Islam :S
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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    How do you expect moderate Muslims to take back Islam?!! Jesus Christ.
    BINGO!! We have a winner!

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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    BINGO!! We have a winner!
    Oookayy .... :/

    I have never denied Muslims have a duty to police their own religion and help eradicate extremists, i merely ask how people expect us to succeed in this task.
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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What support ffs?!
    A few were Sauds. Seems to me US needs to review their allies list.
    I have long been critical of the US relationship with the KSA. However, just because citizens of a country do something, doesn't mean that their government supports it.

    How many have died?
    Almost as much as the Iraqis and Afghans caused by the war set in motion by US and UK/Coalition
    It is wrong of you to bring Afghanistan into this. Remember, the criminal Taliban was sheltering those responsible for 9/11. There was undoubtedly a moral and a legal right to launch that attack.


    And so its my 7th time in asking and still counting!
    How do you expect moderate Muslims to take back Islam?!! Jesus Christ.
    Perhaps "take back" is a poor choice of words. However, moderate elements in the religion DO need to be more forceful in comdemning such actions and seek to counter the work of radical elements in their communities. When nutty "Christians" do things, most other Christians will duly criticize them for it.

    Also, since we are talking about religion and you don't want people to say anything that would offend your religion, please do not use "Jesus Christ" in the context you used in this post. It is offensive.

    What can i do, a insignificant Muslim out of the 1.2billion against the people with the guns and money?
    One person can do a lot, with the proper drive and motivation. Ask people with names like Gandhi and King.

    If US cannot remove Al Qaeda and extremists in general, the richest and arguably the most powerful country in the world, how do you expect Moderate Muslims to achieve success?
    You live in Britain. The UK has its share of radical Islamic preachers. Moderate Muslims need to counter their hate in your own communities. THAT is what you and other ordinary, average, moderate, loving Muslims can do.

    When the 2 most holiest cities in the world is in the hands of crazy bastards [kept in power by the west through money], how do you expect to top that influence?
    Call the leaders of the KSA what you want, but I wouldn't call them crazy. At least they are not committing terror acts all around the world.

    Pakistan fall into extremism? Meh. Matter of time.
    I don't think so. Most Pakistanis are pretty moderate and most of the radicals are in the tribal areas in the northwest along the Afghan border.

    Instead of being in Iraq, we should have been in Pakistan to begin with but now it is too late.
    Supporting Musharaff for so long was a mistake. However, Pakistan is not inevitably going to sink into extremism.

    If US attacks and invades another Muslim country ... *sigh*
    The U.S. has also helped Muslim countries. Remember Bosnia and Kosovo? The U.S. tried to help with the UN in Somalia - though the UN plan there was ill conceived. Shouldn't something be done in Darfur where Muslims are comitting genocide against fellow Muslims?

    RIght now, the biggest world problem is Muslims running amok. The Islamic world is doing very little to stop it. If the West has to stop it with military force, then they have to do it. If that means invading another Muslim country if necessary, then so be it. Hopefully, it will be better conceived than the Iraq debacle has been.

    It will be seen as an attack on Muslims and Islam :S[/QUOTE]
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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    There was undoubtedly a moral and a legal right to launch that attack.
    What about Iraq? No moral right to attack.

    However, moderate elements in the religion DO need to be more forceful in comdemning such actions and seek to counter the work of radical elements in their communities. When nutty "Christians" do things, most other Christians will duly criticize them for it.
    I don't hear western christians in US or Europe condeming Nigeria ....
    And i've shown how Muslims do condemn extremism.

    Also, since we are talking about religion and you don't want people to say anything that would offend your religion, please do not use "Jesus Christ" in the context you used in this post. It is offensive.
    Jesus Christ is now offensive? Okay, I won't use that term ..

    You live in Britain. The UK has its share of radical Islamic preachers. Moderate Muslims need to counter their hate in your own communities. THAT is what you and other ordinary, average, moderate, loving Muslims can do
    And we Muslims do that very well.
    The majority of calls given to the British police on tip offs about extremists come from who? The Muslim community.

    I don't think so. Most Pakistanis are pretty moderate and most of the radicals are in the tribal areas in the northwest along the Afghan border.

    Supporting Musharaff for so long was a mistake. However, Pakistan is not inevitably going to sink into extremism.
    We have to wait and see what happens.

    The U.S. has also helped Muslim countries. Remember Bosnia and Kosovo? The U.S. tried to help with the UN in Somalia - though the UN plan there was ill conceived. Shouldn't something be done in Darfur where Muslims are comitting genocide against fellow Muslims?
    Yes it has and i have never stated US does not help Muslim countries.
    But should it?
    Should it not be up to Muslims to help their own?
    Dependency on Western aid is as crippling as ignoring it.

    RIght now, the biggest world problem is Muslims running amok. The Islamic world is doing very little to stop it.
    How do you propose it be stopped?
    Last edited by Laila; 11-30-08 at 09:22 AM.


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    Re: At least 82 killed as gunmen rampage in India city

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I'm not saying the AP is wrong, ok, so don't twist my words. I am saying that if you want a wholesome education on the root of the current issues in Middle Eastern politics, then you will have to go much deeper than what the newspaper says.

    But you clearly have no interest in the truth, and so I have no interest in you.
    How much deeper would that be? huh? Every ****ing day extremist are killing somebody in the world and the peaceful cowards do nothing.

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